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  • Originally posted by shadowcat View Post
    Oh give me an f'n break here dodge....as if you never post to invoke a reaction from Christians??? Hahahaha yeah right. What other reason would an atheist be doing on a Christian thread telling all Christians that their belief in a mythical God and Jesus, angels and satan be doing other than just what you accuse others of? Please be honest here. You would be the complete and total definition of a troll. You have absolutely no interest in Christianity nor do you have any interest in Shepherd's Chapel or Arnold Murray. You also go to the threads and argue the validity of evolution vs creationism. You have no other interest EXCEPT invoking a reaction from the posters. I can't fathom you actually accusing others of being trolls when that is what your game has been all along.

    As for respecting the way I post...lol You have never gotten a glimpse of my entire nature or I assure you you'd think otherwise. If I were to post what I really think of some of the posters on here I'd be banned permanately I'm quite sure. I have a bit of a history of not so savory posting on message boards when I get ****ed off. I've been to message boards in the past where there is a "clique" of people that are only interested in bashing a particular group or individual where I have defended the group/individual before. Talk about things getting out of hand and being called a troll, well you're looking at someone that is mentioned in wikipedia for being such a troll that a famous Music magazine message board was shut down because of me and um sam and a couple others. LOL So much so that when a group started up another forum for all of the posters to have a place to gather and post I was still the topic of discussion a couple of years later. I never thought for a second that I could leave such a lasting impression on a group of people, and to actually write about it in wiki as well.

    So I guess you could say I'm the queen of trolls, or at least according to some....LOL
    Cat,

    You are more than welcome to fully express yourself in the uncensored venue I spoke to you about in private. Trust me, they read it. The stats say most all the traffic is coming from here. More than 1300 page views so far.

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    • Originally posted by Sammael View Post
      I see your still crying about the agression dodge, and I haven't been posting that much. Maybe I could do the ole two faced, passive, backstabbing type of posting that others including yourself have done. But I prefer the previous because at least I can keep to my principals of being the more stand up of the two.


      Smyrna, I really never had that much of a problem with you then. I actually found you quite funny and how you get under all their skins is priceless. I don't fore-see any altercations happening at all. Because we both know where we each stand and haven't had issues now. So the future will be not much different.
      Sammael,

      What I meant is that if you were in a discussion with me, and you said "Smyrna' you're being an idiot" I wouldn't consider it flaming or "abuse ad hominem" I'd consider it your way of trying to get me to pay closer attention to your viewpoint, even if I still ultimately disagree. Most of the accusation here of "abusive ad hominem" is an excuse to censor people and distract form the debate at hand. The reason I can say this is because others here get a pass for insulting other, just take a look at Dodge without his Josh hat on. This guy expects us to think he can moderate himself, when all indication is that he's totally out of control and could care less that anyone notices. What's even more ridiculous and outrageous than that, is his superiors don't care this is going on either, and tacitly approve of it.

      You know I really have to credit Franklin with accusing the FactNet staff of being anti-Christian years ago. I just thought he was whining about them being hard on him, which they should have been. I also deserved to be banned on occasion, but what I'm alluding to know is the obvious situation we have here, and it looks like FactNet is completely comfortable with being akin to the Southern Poverty Law Center in agenda and sharing a similar reputation among Christians and Conservatives. It turns out Franklin was right all along.

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      • Originally posted by stage director View Post
        I dunno, I guess I just don't see why it matters who moderates all that much. I've definitely never considered fn to be a Christian forum, even though it does provide opportunity for Christian discussion, so the odds are that the mods/admin will not be Christian anyway. Now, if you break a rule and someone else does the exact same thing but you're the only one sanctioned, then I think you've got a beef.. assuming, I suppose, that all things are pretty even and it's not your 25th time vs their first or something. But I don't anticipate that we as members are going to get a huge vote when it comes to the admin team, and I just don't see you winning this one. On the other hand, I don't advise someone to not voice their objection if they perceive a glaring discrepancy between their treatment vs someone else's, so I'd say pick battles you have a chance of winning. Ya know?
        I'm not here to "win" anything. FactNet is perilously close to losing a great deal of credibility regarding the integrity of their discussion boards in the eyes of users.
        They are showing this is far from a level playing field. That they don't care is their choice. And guess what? I don't care either. But it still needs to be exposed for what it is.

        "Now, if you break a rule and someone else does the exact same thing but you're the only one sanctioned, then I think you've got a beef.. assuming, I suppose, that all things are pretty even..."

        Open your yes and be honest when comparing the many things SGNG123 said to Franklin when I was banned, compared to the reason I was banned last time. Then tell me how "even" that was. He wasn't even warned, so that negates any consideration of the fact I was banned a few times over six years before. And do I have to mention once again the many times SCers have been called racists and Nazis, hundreds of times, which was one thing I complained about a few times with NO response from the moderators. But I didn't care at the time, since I figured I'd be able to handle it myself, and if that meant calling someone a moron for accusing SCers of those things, then that's the way I chose to handle it.

        And now Dodge wants to make that an issue, but yet totally ignores that FactNet set the tone and by their ignoring one camp's pleas for civility, they created an uneven field, which they are now trying blame me for. It's outrageous.

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        • Hi Shadowcat. I don’t post my opinions about religion to “invoke a reaction,” I express my point of view as a member of this forum in the context of a discussion. To me, believing in invisible mythological supernatural beings is not only naïve; but irrational. This is my viewpoint as a rational non-deist. Your opinion that this makes me a “complete and total troll” is without merit; mainly because one of the central characteristics of an internet forum troll is flaming, name-calling, and verbal abuse. I don’t engage in such behavior, Sammael and Smyrna do.

          Thanks for letting me know that you’re an infamous troll; and that your essential nature is to post “unsavory” messages to the point of being mentioned in Wikipedia as being responsible for closing websites down. Defining yourself as the Queen of Trolls tells me a lot about you that I was unaware of, and that you’re proud of your history of being an internet forum troll.

          You even talk about “HTML and ASCII code bombs” as a form of revenge, and “disabling threads” that caused forums to be shut down…and add a little devilish laugh. Is that a threat? You are more of a forum troll than I realized.

          Your post has been reported to Administration.
          Last edited by dodge; 03-23-2012, 03:04 PM.

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          • Hi Smyrna. It wasn’t Josh who banned you the last time; it was the Administration of FACTnet, but because Josh is the moderator it had to come from him. I know this because I am in regular communication with those who administer this forum.

            You mentioned how students of Shepherds Chapel have been called racists and Nazis “hundreds of times,” and how there were “no responses from the moderators.” That may have been true before Josh took over moderation of the Shepherds Chapel threads; but since he’s been here Josh has mentioned many times that “playing the Nazi card” was a form of ad hominem that will now be tolerated; and that was one of the reason Franklin was banned.

            Now that the user forum rules are being taken seriously, these kind of offensive personal attacks are no longer allowed. One would think you would be pleased about that.

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            • Oh no, I think Shadowcat will do the famous Home Alone pose. LMFAO

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              • Dodge you must be on something if you thing these reules are being taken seriously. In other words, No one gives a flying ****, mother****er. No gives a flying **** mother, no gives a, no one gives a , no one gives a flying ****!!

                We are the hate crew, we stand and we won't fall. We're all for none and none for all. **** you, we'll fight till the last hit. And we sure as Hell, ain't gonna take no ****!!

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                • Smyrna, I kinda figured that is what you meant but you are one of the few who actually understands what we are saying and even when we disagree on things the playing field is always even. Even within our disagreements there are still some similarities to our beliefs, just applied diffrently. So I guess in a way, there aren't that many disagreements at all.

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                  • Originally posted by dodge View Post
                    Hi Shadowcat. I don’t post my opinions about religion to “invoke a reaction,” I express my point of view as a member of this forum in the context of a discussion. To me, believing in invisible mythological supernatural beings is not only naïve; but irrational. This is my viewpoint as a rational non-deist. Your opinion that this makes me a “complete and total troll” is without merit; mainly because one of the central characteristics of an internet forum troll is flaming, name-calling, and verbal abuse. I don’t engage in such behavior, Sammael and Smyrna do.

                    Thanks for letting me know that you’re an infamous troll; and that your essential nature is to post “unsavory” messages to the point of being mentioned in Wikipedia as being responsible for closing websites down. Defining yourself as the Queen of Trolls tells me a lot about you that I was unaware of, and that you’re proud of your history of being an internet forum troll.

                    You even talk about “HTML and ASCII code bombs” as a form of revenge, and “disabling threads” that caused forums to be shut down…and add a little devilish laugh. Is that a threat? You are more of a forum troll than I realized.

                    Your post has been reported to Administration.
                    Reported for what? Mentioning something that happened on another message board 10 years ago? Something I did to a group that was notorious for name calling, especially if it had anything to do with God, harrassing forum posters that liked a particular band, harrassing minors that posted there, creating multiple profiles with usernames that look very similar to mine and a few other posters which included a minor and putting up sick and disgusting pornographic pictures in these profiles. Then posting ridiculous and sick things in order to try and make it look like I was the one posting? Out of all the posters that had been posting there for years my profile was mimicked the most. A group that were always bragging about their drug use and sometimes "criminal" activities, AND a group that spammed the band threads they didn't like with html and ascii code bombs themselves, all because they didn't like this particular band. Yet none of them were ever banned. Not even once. But you can bet they were the first to complain if I fought fire with fire.

                    Or is it that my opinion is that you are a troll? It is your opinion that sam is a troll and that's ok but when someone feels the same way about you it's not ok.
                    You just called every person that believes in God, including all of the posters on this thread "irrational". If you do not find that flaming to invoke a reaction then I don't know what to tell you.

                    I found this on a site called curezone.com

                    A classic CureZone troll is trying to make us believe that he is a genuine skeptic with no hidden agenda. He is divisive and argumentative with need-to-be-right attitude, "searching for the truth", flaming discussion, and sometimes insulting people or provoking people to insult him. Troll is usually an expert in reusing the same words of its opponents and in turning it against them.

                    While sometimes, he may sound like a stupid, uninformed, ignorant poster, do not be deceived! Most trolls are highly intelligent people trying to hide behind a mask of stupidity and/or ignorance! They usually have an agenda. Very few trolls come to CureZone out of pure skepticism.

                    A CureZone Troll is generally a person who is extremely skeptical of the main forum subject. He is generally interested to make other forum members look stupid. A troll will sometimes use insults to provoke other people to insult him. Then, he will complain to moderators of being insulted and will request that his opponents get banned from further discussion.

                    hhmmm this sounds very familar to me for some odd reason....

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                    • Originally posted by smyrna View Post
                      Cat,

                      You are more than welcome to fully express yourself in the uncensored venue I spoke to you about in private. Trust me, they read it. The stats say most all the traffic is coming from here. More than 1300 page views so far.
                      Thanks smyrna I will definitely be coming over there.

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                      • Originally posted by Sammael View Post
                        Dodge you must be on something if you thing these reules are being taken seriously. In other words, No one gives a flying ****, mother****er. No gives a flying **** mother, no gives a, no one gives a , no one gives a flying ****!!

                        We are the hate crew, we stand and we won't fall. We're all for none and none for all. **** you, we'll fight till the last hit. And we sure as Hell, ain't gonna take no ****!!
                        Hey Sammael, I was banned for more than a month for insinuating someone was drunk or possibly smoking weed. Not that I think you'd lose much sleep over that.

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                        • Originally posted by dodge View Post
                          Hi Smyrna. It wasn’t Josh who banned you the last time; it was the Administration of FACTnet, but because Josh is the moderator it had to come from him. I know this because I am in regular communication with those who administer this forum.

                          You mentioned how students of Shepherds Chapel have been called racists and Nazis “hundreds of times,” and how there were “no responses from the moderators.” That may have been true before Josh took over moderation of the Shepherds Chapel threads; but since he’s been here Josh has mentioned many times that “playing the Nazi card” was a form of ad hominem that will now be tolerated; and that was one of the reason Franklin was banned.

                          Now that the user forum rules are being taken seriously, these kind of offensive personal attacks are no longer allowed. One would think you would be pleased about that.
                          I'd be pleased about it if it were true. Franklin came back after being banned and started that stuff all over again, without even a warning. And that after six years they finally are paying attention to what is being said in their forums doesn't erase all the time I've had to fight the battles on my own and in my own way, which you are currently using to label me as some lone trouble maker on the SC side, which is a contradiction, since you tired to give the impression no one that has posted here against the SC has been guilty of trolling, flaming, and "abusive ad hominem"

                          And I could care less who banned me, it was the result of being biased and unfair. Stage Director told me how it happened in a PM, and that has made matters worse, especially since it goes against what "Josh" has said about warning people they are going out of bounds, I received no warning, yet SGNG dumped all over Franklin in posts spreading out a few days, without even a warning, so don't give me any garbage about the rules being enforced fairly. It's especially disturbing to me since Oneway has stated he didn't want me banned for what I said to him.

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                          • Hey Smyrna,
                            I am considering this my blaze of glory here. Time for more intelligent convo over at the blog. But to insinuate that the rules are being taken seriously, one must be high. Their complaints are proof positive of the comments. If they weren't it should be relatively easy to toss it over the shoulder.

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                            • Originally posted by shadowcat View Post
                              Thanks smyrna I will definitely be coming over there.
                              Yeah, you and Sam and anyone else can write whatever you wish, and even if we disagree, I promise you are certainly free to call me a moron, idiot, etc. because
                              there are no rules there, which makes it an actual level playing field, because no one can be banned for anything, and thus there is no possible abuse of power.

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                              • Originally posted by Sammael View Post
                                Dodge, you should be old enough to know this saying, " If the shoe fits,wear it". Your crying enough about the wussy punk comment, that it makes me think that is what you truely are. Unless your the kind that considers taking crap when I can't answer you normal behavior. Sorry, I don't buy it. If that is too hard for you to understand, that is not my problem. It just shows that your the type of person that I wouldn't even trust to look after a pet rock.
                                I'd like you Sam to affirm this is merely your opinion, and not "abusive ad hominem" can you do that for me please? By the way, I used to have a bumper sticker that said: "If the shoe fits. STEAL it!" Lol!

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