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    "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." - Thomas Jefferson

    "The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time." - Thomas Jefferson

    "I am sure that never was a people, who had more reason to acknowledge a Divine interposition in their affairs, than those of the United States; and I should be pained to believe that they have forgotten that agency, which was so often manifested during our Revolution, or that they failed to consider the omnipotence of that God who is alone able to protect them." - George Washington

    “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We’ve staked the future of all our political institutions upon our capacity…to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” - James Madison

    “All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible.” - Noah Webster

    "We Recognize No Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus." - John Hancock

    "The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God." - John Adams letter to Abigail

    "Let divines and philosophers, statesmen and patriots, unite their endeavors to renovate the age by impressing the minds of men with the importance of educating their little boys and girls, inculcating in the minds of youth the fear and love of the Deity… and leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system." - Samuel Adams, 1790

    "Why is it that, next to the birthday of the Savior of the world, your most joyous and most venerated festival returns on this day [4th of July, 1837]?" "Is it not that, in the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior? That it forms a leading event in the progress of the Gospel dispensation? Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation of the Redeemer's mission upon earth? That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity?" - John Quincy Adams

    "I have a tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty, through the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am a sinner. I look to Him for mercy; pray for me." - Alexander Hamilton, July 12, 1804

    "For my own part, I sincerely esteem it [the Constitution] a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests." - Alexander Hamilton 1787, re: the Constitutional Convention

    "I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man." - Alexander Hamilton

    "This is all the inheritance I can give my dear family. The religion of Christ can give them one which will make them rich indeed." - from the Will of Patrick Henry

    "It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here." - Patrick Henry

    "Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." - John Jay, Oct 12, 1816

    ""I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus." - Thomas Jefferson

    "It is apprehended that Jews, Mahometans [Muslims], pagans, et cetera, may be elected to high offices under the government of the United States. Those who are Mahometans, or any others who are not professors of the Christian religion, can never be elected to the office of President or other high office, [unless] first the people of America lay aside the Christian religion altogether, it may happen. Should this unfortunately take place, the people will choose such men as think as they do themselves." - Samuel Johnston, July 30, 1788, No Carolina Ratifying Convention

    "Public utility pleads most forcibly for the general distribution of the Holy Scriptures. The doctrine they preach, the obligations they impose, the punishment they threaten, the rewards they promise, the stamp and image of divinity they bear, which produces a conviction of their truths, can alone secure to society, order and peace, and to our courts of justice and constitutions of government, purity, stability and usefulness. In vain, without the Bible, we increase penal laws and draw entrenchments around our institutions. Bibles are strong entrenchments. Where they abound, men cannot pursue wicked courses, and at the same time enjoy quiet conscience." - James McHenry

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    "I now make it my earnest prayer the God would have you and the State over which you preside, in His holy protection, that he would incline the hearts of the citizens to cultivate a spirit of subordination and obedience to government; to entertain a brotherly affection and love for one another, for their fellow citizens of the United States at large, and particularly for their brethren who have served in the field; and, finally, that he would be most graciously pleased to dispose us all to do justice, to love mercy, and to demean ourselves with that charity, humility, and pacific temper of mind, which were the characteristics of the Divine Author of our blessed religion, and without an humble imitation of whose example in these things we can never hope to be a happy nation." - George Washington letter , June 8, 1783

    "whatever strikes at the root of Christianity tends manifestly to the dissolution of civil government." - People vs Ruggles, US Supreme Court, 1811 in which a man profaned Jesus Christ

    "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labour to subvert these great Pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked where is the security of property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths, which the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice? And let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason, and experience both forbids us to expect that National morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle." - Washington's Farewell Address, Sept 19, 1796

    "Certainly no power to prescribe any religious exercise, or to assume authority is religious discipline, has been delegated to the general government. It must then rest with the states, as far as it can be in any human authority." - Thomas Jefferson, Jan 23, 1808

    "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." Thomas Jefferson Jan 1, 1802 in response to the Danbury Baptist Association's concern that the United States government was about to declare another denomination as the "official" church of the country.

    This is what they were protecting against ... an official church of the state like England had.

    "Here is my creed. I believe in one God, Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His providence. That He ought to beworshipped. That the most acceptable service we render Him is doing good to His other children. That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting conduct in this. These I take to be the principal principles of sound religion, and I regard them as you do in whatever sect I meet with them. As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and his religion, as he left them to us, the best the ever saw or is likely to see; but I apprehend it has received various corrupt changes and I have, with most of the present dissenters in England, some doubts as to his Divinity; though it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and I think it needlessl to busy myself with it now, when I expect soon an opportunity of knowing the truth with less trouble. I see no harm, however, in its being believed, if that belief has the good consequence, as probably it has, of making his doctrines more respected and better observed; especially as I do not percieve that the Supreme [Being] takes it amiss, by distinguishing the unbelievers in His government of the world with any particular marks of His displeasure..." Ben Franklin, to Ezra Stile, president of Yale University

    "Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only law-book, and every member would be obliged, in conscience, to temperence and frugality and industry; to justice and kindness and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love and reverence towards Almighty God. In this commonwealth, no man would impair his healht by gluttony, drunkenness, or lust; no man would sacrifice his most precious time to cards or any other trifling and mean amusement; no man would steal, or lie, in any way defraud his neigbor, but would live in peace and good will with all men; no man would blaspheme hi Maker or profane his worship; but a rational and manly, a sincere and unafected piety and devotion would reign in all hearts. What a utopia; what a paradise would this region be!" - the diary of John Adams, Feb 22, 1756

    "'Our different sentiments on almost every question is methinks a meloncholy proof of the imperfection of human understanding. We indeed seem to feel our own want of political sidom, since we have been running about in search of it...I have lived,sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth-- that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice,is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assurde, Sir, in the sacrted writings, that 'except the Lord building the house, they labour in vain that build it.' I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel: We shall be divided by our little partial local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall become a reproach... I therefore beg leave to move-- that henceforth paryers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business..." - Ben Franklin

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    • #3
      Umm, I didn't realize there was an entire thread dedicated to the subject. http://www.factnet.org/vbforum/showthread.php?t=11979 Hummm ...

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      • #4
        This is what admin has been trying to tell you and Aviyah.

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        • #5
          Dodge, I knew the posts were moved and my position is that the subject isn't necessarily Deist. Yeah, I should have figured they'd get their own thread. I can't ever seem to find anything since the format of the site was changed. I did as Nite Light suggested and found the thread from their profile.

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          • #6
            Two very helpful tools on the site are the "New Posts" and "Quick Links" buttons at the top.

            It helps stay in the conversation and even helps when active threads are moved.

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            • #7
              Cool! Thanks.

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              • #8
                they weren't as you hoped

                http://www.sullivan-county.com/deism...rson_deist.htm

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                • #9
                  Actually personally I am glad to see it reposted considering I am skimming. turtle

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