Did anyone else grow up in the Twelve Tribes

[humble (humble)]

Sorry youthgone, for judging you, and stealing your thread...

So, did anyone else grow up in the Twelve Tribes?

[ex_yathed (ex_yathed)]

Does anyone else agree that there was a higher level of arrogance amoungst those born in the TT then those who came in later in their lives?

I mean children and youths...

[smoore (smoore)]

well, i really want to be careful/sensitive here because my observations/experience with the youth was pretty vast/extreem.

please understand i am not judging them, i love and want more than anything for them to be free to live by their hearts and not be afraid.
i personally know several people (myself included) that would do anything to help them on every level regardless of their disposition.

when i met them 18 years ago, the youth were still being born, the community itself was extreemly legalistic.

when i began visiting them on a regular basis about 3 yrs ago they seemed freer, less cold,
kinder and those of us with children can testify to humbler. lol...
the youth seemed to good to me, their actions/attitude when visiting was amazing, like they couldn't wait for me to move in.
then after 8 months (i think it was) i moved in and saw a much different picture.
deep, deep struggles of fear, jealousy, proud arrogance, rebellion, anger, envy...etc...
but mostly what i saw was isolation, fear, sadness, and fustration, fustration, fustration!

these kids are great, they really see whats going on but they feel stuck like chuck man.

i believe all this is a direct result of the gvt/parents making bad decisions over and over, over many years.

although there are many other factors(new thread maybe)that most of us are very aware of.

even the ones that gave me the hardest time, once i got them to open up, and not fear to be real, there was no arrogance at all, only pain.
great pain.
i cried with many, many times.
i love and miss them so very, very much.
i wish they were free to really be who they truly are...beautiful...miracles...
worthy of love...

[ex_yathed (ex_yathed)]

As far as a child is concerned, you are only as you are taught...

[shannon (shannon)]

at the time I saw the ones with "rebellious hearts" as disobediant children, ones I lothed to "cover". Now I see those children as the few that were't broken-no, SHATTERED by living there. They somehow were able to keep a little part of their real personality alive-instead of becoming mindless obediant hollow drones for the greater good of the edah. I have hope for those children(now young men and women) -that they will come out into "the world" and be AWESOME wives, husbands, parents and co-workers, and friends.