Is anyone here?

[turtle]

No sin causes changes how. Read Lamation 8. Because of sin God sent a drought which caused a faminine which caused skin coloring changes. However we all have mutations were they because of sin. Well if you think about the garden for a minute adam and eve had life until they ate the fruit and then they would suffer death. Bodies would age.

[turtle]

I see a family of third world phoncians move in and I'm burning a cross.
" Play that phonican music white boy, play that phoncian music yeaaa!"

I think you really want to lynch the person that wrote that post that looks bigotry. However I think I cleared it up. Or hope anyway.

[turtle]

Does sin cause generational curse yes. For do we not all die in the flesh just like adam and eve, do we not all suffer from sin by earthly destructions. Come on. We all suffer when anyone else hurts that we know and we suffer when something gains wide world attention that is painful.

[orthodox]

Turtle, I see you also lack any remote semblance of humour.

[turtle]

Orthodox humor, hmm, I do not find somethings humorous. Humor is one of those things that many people disagree on. I like many modern commedians. However I do not like their foul language. I find some commedians very dry.

[terluvire]

Hey Ter,

Turtle's turning out to be a bigger racist than "Aryan". She's also claiming that skin color is a "genetic problem."

"However because of our sin it caused genetic problems. Proof Lamentation 8, realize it must come from a nation and not one person. Meaning a tribe. Egypt was laiden with sin of idolatry, Hebrews had been there, what was their skin coloring white no egyptians were white. What color were the phoncians and Assyrians and the turks? All had sin problems all."

This is hilarious! The detractors have made every single racist comment on this entire SC board, and yet they call SC students racists! Too much!

It sounds like Turtle is promoting the same teachings Franklin was promoting from that one human race website. lol

I know, I know, all the racist comments and innuendos came from the detractors, never from us, though they accuse us of racism. Unbelievable! LOL!

[christinusonearth]

Man sinned, was condemned to die. God sent Jesus, born of a virgin, and He died in our place. The Word of God, died in our place.... What does that mean? It's deep think about it... The whole world has to be "reset". I'm talking about some deep things here...

I didn't get these ideas from a book, but revelation. There are countless authors on deep spiritual revelation, you'd do well to read. Gene Edwards, Madam Guyon, Prem Pradhan, etc. There are easy to read books, but with lots of meat in them.

So, anyone have any ideas on why "The Word of God" had to die?

[fatherofaking]

Man sinned, was condemned to die. God sent Jesus, born of a virgin, and He died in our place. The Word of God, died in our place.... What does that mean? It's deep think about it... The whole world has to be "reset". I'm talking about some deep things here...

I didn't get these ideas from a book, but revelation. There are countless authors on deep spiritual revelation, you'd do well to read. Gene Edwards, Madam Guyon, Prem Pradhan, etc. There are easy to read books, but with lots of meat in them.

So, anyone have any ideas on why "The Word of God" had to die?

You have got to be the third username i have seen promoting this guys books.
What you are doing is shameful.
You pass yourself off as a concerned Christian and then through deceit you promote these books.
It is because of people like you that the world has gone to hell.

[smyrna]

For once I agree with FOAK. Using multiple user names to prop up their own agenda is something the pay-to-post program stopped completely.
I hope they reinstate it.

[turtle]

Man sinned, was condemned to die. God sent Jesus, born of a virgin, and He died in our place. The Word of God, died in our place.... What does that mean? It's deep think about it... The whole world has to be "reset". I'm talking about some deep things here...

I didn't get these ideas from a book, but revelation. There are countless authors on deep spiritual revelation, you'd do well to read. Gene Edwards, Madam Guyon, Prem Pradhan, etc. There are easy to read books, but with lots of meat in them.

So, anyone have any ideas on why "The Word of God" had to die?

You all love to bait this issue, however I think you fail to understand the fact all people sin, and that sin has no forgiveness until Christ died and rose again, except for the sacrificial law. The sacrificial law had to be repeated. You should take time and read Hebrews 9 and 10 as will as Romans 3:23: 5:8: 10:9,10

[easeltine]

Hi Turtle,

The Scripture that came to my heart is found in Hebrews 9 that you mention above:

And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into the heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us...So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for Him shall He appear the second time without sin unto salvation. See vs. 22-28

I have not paid my fee yet Smyrna. I will get you guys some money shortly...

[smyrna]

Hey Weaseltime,

You're certainly free to send me money, but I don't work for FactNet, and posting is free again, thanks to people like me who paid for a lifetime subscription.

[terluvire]

Hey Weaseltime,

You're certainly free to send me money, but I don't work for FactNet, and posting is free again, thanks to people like me who paid for a lifetime subscription.

Happy Thanksgiving Smyrna and all!

I paid for a year subscription. I certainly don't need any money lol

[turtle]

I have not paid a dime in money, but in labor.

[easeltine]

For once I agree with FOAK. Using multiple user names to prop up their own agenda is something the pay-to-post program stopped completely.

Oh, yes Smyrna!

[turtle]

One thing needed here is more help in the way to discuss beliefs. I was looking at a thread on SDA. Alot seem to have questions concerning this group. I have known a few that were seven day adventist. However I never discussed doctrines with them. Parents that are concern about these groups need to examine what they teach and then explain differences. I really see this as the key to alot of the religious striff. However I still believe Christ is the answer.

[jargon631]

One thing needed here is more help in the way to discuss beliefs. I was looking at a thread on SDA. Alot seem to have questions concerning this group. I have known a few that were seven day adventist. However I never discussed doctrines with them. Parents that are concern about these groups need to examine what they teach and then explain differences. I really see this as the key to alot of the religious striff. However I still believe Christ is the answer.

well, ms. turtle...i was an adventist for 18 years...what would you like to know?...fd...

[turtle]

So you are still prowling around these boards I see. Why you seem to be against the SDA? I take it you are no longer with them. Something about those I meet were calm people. Different mind you, but... Never mind, I think I rather listen to what God speaks to my heart, However I am curious is there any reason a christian should have a problem with this group on a doctrinal stanze.

[jargon631]

So you are still prowling around these boards I see. Why you seem to be against the SDA? I take it you are no longer with them. Something about those I meet were calm people. Different mind you, but... Never mind, I think I rather listen to what God speaks to my heart, However I am curious is there any reason a christian should have a problem with this group on a doctrinal stanze.

hmmmm...i wouldnt consider myself to be prowling...i'm quite upfront with my postings...lol...as far as SDA doctrine goes?...i have an enormous problem with their contention that only the sda will go to heaven...thats extra-biblical and down right insulting to other folks who believe very strongly in their own faith...but as a non-christian, i'm not in that loop...fd

[turtle]

Okay, here is the thing, I believe Christ is the only way of salvation. Now what does this truly mean. Jesus is the word that became flesh. We live by faith in who, God. Problem people have is, is Jesus God. I believe He is based on scripture, but I also believe He is the Son of God. In other words part of the Godhead bodily. The triune God.