Who is he?

[Col. Bo Cowshut]

Well, Joe, another possibility, and one that’s widely accepted in the scientific community, is that the Universe and everything in it expanded or inflated out of a “singularity” almost fourteen billion years ago. We don’t know where this “singularity,” this zone of infinite density, came from or why. All we know, so far, is that the Universe, through the process of inflation, evolved into what we see around us now over a period of about 13.7 billion years from that point. All we know is that we are inside of it and at one time it didn’t exist, and neither did we. Perhaps we humans will never know, can never know due to our limited intelligence, where it all came from and why.

Whether a god caused this singularity to appear; or it represents an endless cycle of birth, death and rebirth of universes that had no beginning and will have no end is nothing but speculation that cannot be proven at present. You and other religious people tend to anthropomorphize the natural forces that could be responsible for the appearance of what we know as the Universe, calling it God or Jesus in your Christian mythological cosmology. Buddhists believe that the Universe came into existence through the mental actions of its inhabitants without needing to explain a beginning or end. In Hindu cosmology, the singularity is not the beginning but just the start of the present manifestation of the Universe that was preceded by an infinite number of universes and that will be followed by an infinite number of universes. This sounds very close to what some scientific cosmologists say.

If I had to chose a religious cosmology that best fit my personal belief, it looks like it would be Hinduism. However, since I have a rational scientific mind, I believe the Lambda-Cold Dark Matter standard model of physical cosmology explains how the Universe came into existence better than any other model. No gods, no anthropomorphic projections, just the best explanation that we have.

I find it hilarious that theory has never own a single court case. The more correct way to say that line is "socialistic ideologues" have forced this garbage down the throats of suckers using the disguise of seperation of church and state. But opinions are like @@@holes everybody has one and they all stink.

[dodge]

Hi Colonel Cowshut. I don’t know what you mean by “that theory never owning a single court case.” We’re talking about the standard scientific model of cosmology, called “Lambda-Cold Dark Matter.” It has nothing to do with court cases. You must believe that the National Aeronautics and Space Administration is made up of “socialistic ideologues,” because they explain what the standard model of cosmology is on their webpage.

http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_matter.html

CalTech has an informative site that explains the Standard Cosmological Model.

http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level...s1/frames.html

You would have to ignore every major college and university in the world, and be willing to dump the science of astrophysics and astronomy to come to the conclusion that the standard cosmological model is, as you said, “garbage forced down the throats of suckers using the disguise of separation of church and state.” Of course, your statements make no sense at all; since the Lambda-Cold Dark Matter standard cosmological model has nothing to do with court cases or the separation of church and state. You come across as a rabid right-wingnut yourself though, Colonel. Do you reject science in general?

[joe]

Hi Dodge,
I firmly believe God created the universe,however,he could have used/caused the " Big Bang " to do it.

[dodge]

Absolutely, Joe! We don’t know how or why the “singularity” appeared from which the Universe expanded. Your guess is as good as mine. Perhaps you’re right, and some super-celestial intelligence that you understand as "god" or some such thing created it some 13.7 billion years ago. My puny mind isn't bright enough to know all the answers.

[stage director]

I don't think the "big bang" contradicts what the bible says. Matter of fact, I think it supports it.

[Col. Bo Cowshut]

Hi Colonel Cowshut. I don’t know what you mean by “that theory never owning a single court case.” We’re talking about the standard scientific model of cosmology, called “Lambda-Cold Dark Matter.” It has nothing to do with court cases. You must believe that the National Aeronautics and Space Administration is made up of “socialistic ideologues,” because they explain what the standard model of cosmology is on their webpage.

http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_matter.html

CalTech has an informative site that explains the Standard Cosmological Model.

http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level...s1/frames.html

You would have to ignore every major college and university in the world, and be willing to dump the science of astrophysics and astronomy to come to the conclusion that the standard cosmological model is, as you said, “garbage forced down the throats of suckers using the disguise of separation of church and state.” Of course, your statements make no sense at all; since the Lambda-Cold Dark Matter standard cosmological model has nothing to do with court cases or the separation of church and state. You come across as a rabid right-wingnut yourself though, Colonel. Do you reject science in general?

Actually the theory has been to court . . . at least one-hundred-times in the past fifty years here in the US. I will give you that. Unfortunately, it has failed the test every time. In each case, the court has decided on the basis of seperation of church and state. Just the facts, ma'am.

Science is about repeatability. Take the equation 2 + 2 = 4. Work that equation a thousand times today. Let me know what answer you come to. Then we will wait a week and try the equation again to see if you still get the same answer. If not, the equation is worthless to science. You do not have to be a rabid right-wing nut to smell @@@@.

[Col. Bo Cowshut]

I don't think the "big bang" contradicts what the bible says. Matter of fact, I think it supports it.

You do good grasshopper. So much for movie lines. The Roman church invented the Gap Theory just for you. But atlas . . . they are but theories.

[dodge]

Hello Colonel Cowshut. No, the Lambda-CDM standard model of big bang cosmology has not been to court as you said “at least one-hundred-times in the past fifty years here in the U.S.” This cosmological model hasn’t even been around for fifty years. It appears that you’re confusing scientific cosmology with Darwinian evolution, which has been evaluated in several court decisions relating to “intelligent design.”

As far as the theory of evolution and court cases, it has not as you said “failed the test every time.” In the December 2005 case of Kitzmiller et al. v. Dover, U.S. District Court Judge John E. Jones III ordered the Dover Area School Board to refrain from maintaining an Intelligent Design Policy in any school within the Dover Area School District. Judge Jones ruled that “intelligent design” is not science and cannot be adjudged a valid, accepted scientific theory as it has failed to publish in peer-reviewed journals, engage in research and testing, and gain acceptance in the scientific community.

In the January 2005 case of Selman et al. v. Cobb County School District et al. resulted in the ruling that the Cob County School District was not to disclaim or denigrate evolution either orally or in written form.

There were several others that you can look into at various sites. It appears that it was “intelligent design” and creationism in general that has “failed the test every time,” and not the theory of evolution. You appear, Colonel, to be misinformed.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj.../evolution.htm

http://ncse.com/creationism/legal/cr...Fcnc4AodpA23nA

There has never been, from what I understand, a court case in the United States that has resulted in demonstrating that the theory of evolution “failed the test” as you put it. And the scientific theory of big bang cosmology has never been to court, as far as I can see. If so, please link me to a source that supports your contention that either the theory of evolution or big bang cosmology has “failed the test” in court. If I’m wrong, I certainly will admit it and thank you for giving me information that I was unaware of.

[Col. Bo Cowshut]

Hello Colonel Cowshut.
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You got that much correct.

[dodge]

I see, Cowshut...you're unable to defend your uninformed right-wing rants. That much has become obvious to me.

[stage director]

Dodge, that's because Bo likes to question the rest of us and mostly point out that we are wrong, not actually contribute his own thoughts on a concept. Or at least that's been my experience..

[hardbones]

Sometimes he does. Or at least he used to. I haven't been here for a couple of years.
On those occasions where has actually presented his positions they are well thought out. Tongues for eg. As a tongues talker I completely disagree with him. His position though is well reasoned.

Merry Christmas to all of you and I can't figure out who the director is. What was your former handle?
Are you the deist MD from upper Mich?