LaRouche continued 6

[chator]

Exhibit B: Beck-Hitler

[eaglebeak]

Happy Thanksgiving, one and all.

I note that Dennis King has a a pretty funny new post up--"Summer Camp, LaRouche-Style"

http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/erin-belcher.htm

It's the first-hand report of the 2003 experiences of Erin Belcher, a former LYM member or former close LYM contact at "cadre camp" in the remote--always remote--Big Bear Lake.

Best feature of her report: her map of possible escape routes from Big Bear Lake.

Exit question: Do you suppose LHL was ever thankful for anything? I mean, who would he thank but himself?

[chator]

According to this article, http://curiouscapitalist.blogs.time....lation-or-not/, it might be. Think about it, LYM, you can use the turkey metaphor to show how the U.S. is on the fast track to a hyperinflationary blow-out. You can scare people into thinking this might be the last Thanksgiving they will enjoy before they have to stand in the souplines for a hand-out. Here's an idea for LPAC, use a Black Friday photo like this one,



to show how the U.S. is on the verge of a mass strike. For whatever its worth, I have found one other economist who seems to agree with LaRouche's hyperinflationary scenario. He is John Williams' of ShadowStats website. But unlike Lyn who sees a grenade in the Thanksgiving turkey, and a timebomb hiding under the Christamas tree, every year. JW is giving the U.S. 6-9 months,http://www.prisonplanet.com/john-wil...land-mine.html.

[Peter_Tennenbaum]

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone (that is decent and kind).

I wrote the below text a few days ago and tried to attach a couple pictures. I failed, and I know not why. So I thought a new account might work. Apparently not. In any case, my screen name is now who I am and the name I usually sign my posts to. If LaRouche is going to serve me and "command me" to produce documents, why not simply change my name to my name.

I would like to think that I am still "Earnest_one", but I will post now as me, albeit with the underline between first and last names.

I am ****ed about the attachment thing as I had a couple nice pictures. Anybody with a Facebook account can see them, however. In any case, here is what I wrote, quickly, save without the pics of the nice device. Perhaps the Factnet people will tell me what is wrong. So, here is what I wanted to say and still want to say, barring any ridiculous errors composing and editing:

A little apology for the semi-hideous tone I took earlier, with FightApathy. My wife and I were waiting and waiting and waiting for CAT-Scan results. Her tumor markers shot up, suddenly, and things looked very bleak. Often waiting is worse than simply hearing the bad news.

I often come here to simply let off steam, mostly at LaR and his crew (my late-brother) for torturing my father. On the other hand, I really don't enjoy poking fun at the people here or getting into conflicts. My apologies. The girl talk was fun though (sorry girls.. ). And yes, a lot of humor does not translate well into the written word.

It has been a hellish week, personally. The only good news is that news is in and no visible tumors have been found, albeit with the terrible caveats that they did not scan her entire upper body (where they have showed up before) and, because of the type of cancer, only things at least one centimeter in size are visible. The tumor markers, however have NEVER been this high without real trouble and now the doctors only have surgery and one other drug left as options.

The rest falls onto my shoulders and I have all kinds of things up my sleeve, including some amazing work now being done with non-toxic agents, all available over-the-counter. But talk of that will have to wait as I am simply helping a truly serious scientist on this project and it is his thing, now undergoing trials including possibly with my wife, and soon.

Attached, however, are two photos of the control box I am building for the electromagnetic wave therapy, similar to the work of Novocure, but with far more capabilities. It will have 1,000 integrated circuits inside it. Almost everything has already been built and tested. But now I have to hard-wire the whole thing in terms of sub-circuits and modules that simply connect together. Amazingly, I have yet to design a circuit that does not work. It is probably because I imply know the elementary analog electronics cold, and then the digital stuff is child's play. I don't try ridiculous, complicated stuff. I attempt to obtain really simple, elegant designs that then get built up and up and up until one possesses vast capabilities. Scientists are here all the time, and my work is looked over by experts (Hi Lyn! -- is anyone looking over your work and giving you an honest evaluation? Can anything be tested to your advertised specifications?).

It will be a fabulous machine, with 5 frequency generators (each capable of putting out sinewaves from 80kHz to 360kHz). These signals can be added in any combination (superposition), and/or put into sweep mode, and/or then modulated by other waves (trianglewaves, sinewaves, squarewaves, etc.) of almost any frequency, in almost every possible way. The panel includes LED and LCD displays for the frequencies of all the generators, the modulating signals, the temperature of all the different electrodes around the body (they heat up and there is automatic circuitry to shut the circuit off in less than a microsecond after a dangerous fault condition arises). A vast range of voltages are used. The circuits inside the box run on relatively low voltages, but then the signal goes out to a single super chip -- an 800 dollar operational amplifier with a huge heatsink that attaches to the other side of this box. This chip can put out 80 volts, peak-to-peak, at up to 400kHz, at up to 30 AMPS!! Then the signal goes into a 3-to-1 toroidal step-up transformer to obtain up to 240 volts, peak-to-peak and, most importantly, electrical isolation. It comes back into the box for all the switching operations, accomplished via solid state relays (isolated Mosfets, that turn on and off using internal photo diodes controlled by logic chips). Then it all leaves the box via connectors to vast arrays of electrode pairs/sets, put all around the body to create different field geometries to hit the cancer from all different directions.

I can also dial in the time each pair or set of electrodes is on, to the hundredth of a second, from 0.01 seconds to 9.99 seconds. One pair gets the signal, then the signal is switched to another pair, and another pair and another and and and, then back to the beginning in an endless loop. A huge range of electrode geometries are possible.

The machine can be put into any one of 256 different "states" where a state is a frequency, and/or a combination of frequencies, modulated or not modulated in a certain way -- even swept over a range of frequencies at different rates. Given the geometry -- the positions of the electrodes around the body -- each time a new pair is switched on, the voltage has to change as the distance between electrodes will change. For this to work, one should keep the same field strength (volts per centimeter). This is a special type of field, called "capacitive conducting" -- no current actually flows into the body; it simply exerts alternating, sometimes pulsed, forces, that push and pull the electrical charges in all the fluids and tissue in the body. Roughly speaking, the field exists in a cylinder inside the body, between each pair of electrodes that are "on" -- that have a signal across them.

So.. 256 different modes -- almost like LaR's delusional system and his precious tuning that keeps our voices from disintegrating and the planets from exploding and/or trailing off into another galaxy.

Then, without using a microprocessor or micro-controller, the circuit can be put into program mode, where it goes from one state to the next, and the time it's in each state can be varied. Then it loops around through the same set of states or jumps into another program The empty spot in the middle of the panel is where a module will plug in that has a miniature replication of the positioning of all the electrode pairs around the body. Here I use small colored LEDs that will light up in sync with the action taking place around the body -- the switching of the signal between pairs/sets of electrodes. So, by looking at the control box, you can see the switching operations and the geometry of the signal sources, in three dimensions, and in real time.

This special electrical field can slow down the rate that cancer cells divide and also make cells that are about to divide explode into benign particles, harmlessly reabsorbed into the body.

Neat stuff. And a pretty design, with almost everything already proven to work -- all the concepts and specs all tested and confirmed. What is left is to build all the circuits into nice modules on small perfboards, and connect everything (over 10,000 point-to-point solder joints -- I have no money for CAD design and printed circuit boards). Then I get back to work on manufacturing the electrodes from exotic sub-micron powders such as Barium-Zirconium-Titanate doped with about 0.05% of Ytterbium and pressed into 3/4 of an inch pellet/disk, approximately five sheets of paper thick, at 55,000 pounds per square inch (I designed and built the press from scratch). Then the pellets/disks are "sintered" at almost 3,000 degrees F., more than enough to melt steel, in a furnace that I also designed and built. It has tiny sensors inside that allow me to obtain temperature readings at different locations inside the small chamber. The temperature versus time function is a complicated issue -- many, many non-linearities exist everywhere. A small change in one variable can produce a large change in the result. What I want is a thin disk with a super-high dielectric constant (between 10,000 to 20,000) with a correspondingly high dielectric breakdown specification.

Not just talk folks. And there are other projects too, some already built and tested and used. If you are on Facebook, you need not be my "friend" to see video of the super-high dosage intravenous vitamin C administered while there is a big machine, all around my wife's abdomen, producing an oscillating magnetic field using these fairly new rare-earth supermagnets (made from Neodymium-Iron-Boron).

And, yes, machine tools are used for many things. And so are Descartes' coordinate systems... really quite helpful, along with some minor laws of somebody named "Newton".

So.. a fig leaf, for the crowd.... and possibly a reminder to the kids that there is a whole other world out there, where real science is being done using real materials, and real laws, and it can all be done by any one of you. Slick videos are nice, but designing and building NEW things is also nice.

I look forward to Sky Shields explaining all my work to me, in high definition video and audio.

Peter Tennenbaum November 23, 2010 (now November 26)

[chator]

For whatever its worth, I have found one other economist who seems to agree with LaRouche's hyperinflationary scenario. He is John Williams' of ShadowStats website. But unlike Lyn who sees a grenade in the Thanksgiving turkey, and a timebomb hiding under the Christamas tree, every year. JW is giving the U.S. 6-9 months,http://www.prisonplanet.com/john-wil...land-mine.html.

I missed this earlier, but in an EIR article from 2009, Marcia Merry-Baker quotes and referrences John Williams' figures for U.S. unemployment. So, it is entirely possible that LaRouche and the EIR economics staff are basing their hyperinflationary arguments on William's analysis.

[borisbad]

I missed this earlier, but in an EIR article from 2009, Marcia Merry-Baker quotes and referrences John Williams' figures for U.S. unemployment. So, it is entirely possible that LaRouche and the EIR economics staff are basing their hyperinflationary arguments on William's analysis.

I don't think that LaRouche needed someone else's arguments about unemployment and inflation since he's been touting the same line about the world economy descending into Weimar style inflation since at least the time Nixon took the dollar off its pegging to gold when it was replaced by the so-called euro-dollar, and since the days of the original oil "hoax". There's nothing in his arguments today that he didn't say for the past forty years.

[Peter_Tennenbaum]

LaRouche is a moron

Yeah, big deal -- we all know that.

But I learned something new today. In his latest attempt to justify his colossal failures at "prediction" he rambles on about the distinction between man and animal.

Fine, there is a large and important distinction. He spoke of the creative will of man, etc. But he says that animals behave via "conditioning" and that even THEIR behavior cannot be predicted accurately.

Bulls..t. Moron. Incompetent, uneducated fool (Lar-talk, excuse the poor imitation).

Gee, I thought that much of what animals do is instinctual. Run an experiment: Take a 1,000,000 dogs, of all types. Starve them, mildly. Now, for each one, put a bowl of food and/or water out for them to eat/drink -- something that they like. How many are NOT going to go and eat/drink?

This cannot be predicted with any accuracy?!!!!

Hey, I could be wrong. I have a limited education on these matters. On the other hand, if I had money, I would bet good money that if the dogs were healthy, and the hunger was not extreme enough to weaken them or change something in the "instinctual" part of their brains (eating/drinking is not a learned behavior!), that 99%, minimum, would go to the bowl and eat/drink.

If true, then the guy that makes a living out of "man versus beast" doesn't even know anything about stupid animals (again, Lar-talk, not me -- many animals are quite clever). We all know that he knows nothing about human beings, and about intelligence. But I thought he might know something about the instincts of animal-beasts.

Lastly, and remember I only listen to 20 or 30 seconds of this garbage, he makes more of the same lame jokes about mathematicians and math. How very funny he is...

The number of beautiful, creative ideas that have come from the pure mathematicians is more than the number of brain cells (sic) in this man's demented mind. And, again, I wonder why my late brother didn't simply stand up at a meeting, put on a flourishing display of brilliant mathematical ideas, and denounce this moron for promulgating lies that have an effect on people and, therefore, "the future of humanity" (Lar-talk, again).

Please, if possible, somebody chime in on what the odds are that I give for the little prediction, above, about animals -- dogs, man's [humankind's] best friend.

He and Helga used to have dogs. My dad told me that when he visited their estate in VA, Helga left him on the outside porch when some super aggressive dogs were nearby (not the nice, kind ones -- the trained ones who kill or maim), ready to pounce on him.

A kind of "message", as one used to say in the 80s (sending someone a message). My dad quickly made it inside, to safety. And he never visited again.

So perhaps all they (Lyn and Helga) know about animals (people included) is the behavioral aspects -- the things they can and do manipulate to their advantage.

Peter Tennenbaum November 28, 2010

[realme]

It occurred to me that the chronic amnesia of the now-elderly members may, at least in part, stem from one element of the post-Marxist phase change that swept the NCLC in 1977. I remember having this dispute with Nancy way back then. I told her that the Marxist worldview allowed that progress had taken place throughout human history. And the LC’s drive to a workers’ state in the 70s (remember that?) was another step in that onward rush of progress. But the post-Marxist view, the Olympians, and later the Thule crap, the constant battle between the oligarchs and the city-builders, all that mishigos, essentially said that human history was a big series of defeats. The good guys would win now and then for a while (like the Phillies, come to think of it), but after a few good years the bad guys would win again. I told Nancy that if all this crap was true, it’s a miracle any of us are still alive.

Now, all these years later I wonder if this hasn’t affected the ability of the oldtimers to think, wait a minute, how can Lyn predict the economy’s going to crash now? Didn’t it crash last year, and the year before, and … ? In fact, in what remains of the oldsters’ brains, the economy actually did crash in 2005, and 2000, and 1995, and etc. etc.
This is further reinforced by the obvious fact that the members’ personal economy has been in shambles for 35 years. If they’re living hand-to-mouth, surely everybody is.

Well, some of us had a good Thanksgiving, judging by the paucity of posts the last few days. Good food, family, friends, and football. The economy is hard for some of us while others prosper. But things (material, that is) are never good for the LaRouchie. A dollar here, a big mac coupon there, is all you can hope for. If I were a believer I’d pray for you. All these years! Are you never going to wake up? Guess not.

[Peter_Tennenbaum]

Sancho,

Wow, I hadn't even thought of your interpretation in the concise form you presented. You are probably right, sadly, that he thinks of them as animals in that way. It is hopeful that they can escape.

The math and logic you are certainly right about!

Peter T.

[xlcr4life]

It occurred to me that the chronic amnesia of the now-elderly members may, at least in part, stem from one element of the post-Marxist phase change that swept the NCLC in 1977. I remember having this dispute with Nancy way back then. I told her that the Marxist worldview allowed that progress had taken place throughout human history. And the LC’s drive to a workers’ state in the 70s (remember that?) was another step in that onward rush of progress. But the post-Marxist view, the Olympians, and later the Thule crap, the constant battle between the oligarchs and the city-builders, all that mishigos, essentially said that human history was a big series of defeats. The good guys would win now and then for a while (like the Phillies, come to think of it), but after a few good years the bad guys would win again. I told Nancy that if all this crap was true, it’s a miracle any of us are still alive.

Now, all these years later I wonder if this hasn’t affected the ability of the oldtimers to think, wait a minute, how can Lyn predict the economy’s going to crash now? Didn’t it crash last year, and the year before, and … ? In fact, in what remains of the oldsters’ brains, the economy actually did crash in 2005, and 2000, and 1995, and etc. etc.
This is further reinforced by the obvious fact that the members’ personal economy has been in shambles for 35 years. If they’re living hand-to-mouth, surely everybody is.

Well, some of us had a good Thanksgiving, judging by the paucity of posts the last few days. Good food, family, friends, and football. The economy is hard for some of us while others prosper. But things (material, that is) are never good for the LaRouchie. A dollar here, a big mac coupon there, is all you can hope for. If I were a believer I’d pray for you. All these years! Are you never going to wake up? Guess not.

Very keen words Realme

This reminds me of a very moving email I received after the death of Ken Kronberg. This person left the LC many years earlier and could not help in noticing that the entire landscape of Northern Va in homes, offices, construction, roads, people etc has changed dramatically since we relocated to that area. What we see today is an amazing socialogical cult study of elderly LCers who should have seen several revolutions in technology around them such as computers, cell phones, nano technology, stem cells etc with the vanishing of the office telex. I would venture to say that most in the cult will yap about numerical machine tools without knowing that small shops can buy CNC hardware and produce detailed products with incredible precision . Just watch an episode of "American Chopper" and see a Flo Jet at work.

You take this daily gospel of a New Dark Ages being right around the corner and a fear of the outside world to keep the cult running in circles. The USA has seen a massive increase in spending on music halls, theaters and pro/Am theater music groups. You don't need a cult to listen to music or watch a play. More people visit the Louvre in one day than read the cults lunacy in years.

As the older LCer continue to their amnesia as you describe, think about their peers in the LC.



-How is it that Bob Z has several patents in rocket science , heads a space lobby and advises the White House and Nasa on going to Mars?

-Bob D is an Editor of The Nation. You can tune into just about any TV news show and see writers from there being interviewed.

-Eric L built machinery to do research on Fusion and Plasma and has his own Fusion Foundation.



What spooks me is that I can see several older LCers who are still wearing big frame aviator eyeglasses from the 1980s. Looks like vision coverage may not be in the cult's benefit package. The cult's big deal is being a viral dining room table on youtube and the butt of endless goofing as a cult.

Remember that bumper sticker we sold at airport card table shrines?

More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than in Nuclear Power Plants



30 years later this could be sold to the members as a bumper sticker.

More people have died in LaroucheMobiles than in Nuclear Power Plants



Poor Nancy was there from the very beginning in the mid 1960s. Now the speculation is that the LYMette anchors are getting the the first picks from the Leesburg office schmatza box. If you watch some of the LPAC videos you just may find that poor Nancy is wearing the same clothing a few weeks running! I hope she is changing her drawers. Just watch the first few opening seconds.



Nov 24

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16610



Nov 17

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16501


Nov 10


http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16408





Thanksgiving was pretty good and one of my favorite times of year. Great to be with the family and friends while the house smelled great and excellent football games were on TV. In the cult you usually had Thanksgiving off, but not before some incredible event was going to usher in WW3, economic collapse or a plot against Lyn. To get the Thursday off, you needed to make up the shortfall on Sunday. No matter how much was raised by Sunday, you were short on Monday morning.


It is an endless loop which is a perverse version of that movie "Ground Hog Day" with Bill Murray. You will always be moving, but getting nowhere except whatever cheap parlor trick shows up that day. Wake up the next morning and do it all over again and again and again.

Peter,

The "animals" he has in mind are his membership. You cannot predict their behavior accurately because some have proven the ability to escape their conditioning and to become useful members of society.



A lesson for the kids out there.

For our future cult research grad student, always keep in the backof your mind that Lyn has this peculiar habit of using the scary outside word to describe what is going to be going on in the safe insular Bizarro World.





Larouche Palooza 2010!



[Multi decade LCers [b]Paul Glumaz[b] has a friend in this conspiracy blog. I guess there is a market for those old "PIT Briefs" we printed in the 1970s. Same principal in that you enter this layer by trying to have bigger and better conspiracy.



http://axiomatica.org/whats-happenin...-lost-globally



-The PIT Brief was short for "Party of Intl Terror" and was our expose of JImmy Carter and the Trilat/CFR . If RealME goes back to that era in the 1970s, we went from left to right in the sense that the Marxists hated us and there was no more money or recruits to get. Capitalism was the enemy. However, you could create the good and bad capitalist with the Trilateral / CFR business and hop right into the wallets of that genre. In that era we would sell bulk orders of the PIT brief and Lyn's written pamphlets were all tilted to that direction. The cult is run internally one way while they call different sections based on where Lyn sees the light.



When we we going to Y2K, the NWO was the devil and with the web, anyone can expose conspiracies endlessly, often recycling material over and over from each other. There is no need to give the cult a dime since it all enns up being the same mishmash, depending on how you present it.


Here we find the usual with Doctor Webster Tarpley being mentioned.

http://www.cochinshop.com/videos/wak...ered-04-of-16/

In 1986 Tarpley attempted to run on the platform of Lyndon LaRouche in the New York State Democratic Party primary for the U.S. Senate, but was ruled off the ballot because of a defect in his nominating petitions. He was a frequent host of “The LaRouche Connection”, which its producer, LaRouche’s Executive Intelligence Review News Service,describes as “a news and disinformation cable television program

-Glenn Beck, Soros, anti semitism and Larouche? So Soros brings down the Bank of England and we find that everyone ignores the cult and advice is given about the cult.


http://open.salon.com/blog/sean_fenl...icizing_israel

Comments

Although you and I share a very similar political ideology I cannot share your dismissiveness of George Soros. A case can be made and a fine one is indeed made in a PDF Executive Intelligence Review expose that Soros is the principle behind the fact that we now have the epitome of incompetence in the White House instead of President Hillary Clinton:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ar...ros_dosier.pdf ...............................

The PDF I am recommending explains the who, what, where’s, and whys of that question. If you can ignore LaRouche’s messianic delusions it is required reading for anybody who wonders what happened to the Democratic Party. ..

-At first you may think that we have a Jabroni, but see what happens in the very end. Just go to the 5:50 mark. I wonder what happened? That making Rand Paul into Hitler will surely convert the Tea Party and Libertarians.

http://www.myrealtynews.com/real-est...ndon-larouche/


This really is quite funny as I just let the google and yahoo search engines just email a daily collection of posts and article which mention Larouche or the cult. Half of them are LPAC releases while the past 5 days have yielded a carpetbegging on conspiracy blogs and the usual cult mention.

Nancy Spannaus certainly did not earn a new blouse and sweater from Lyn this week. Maybe she hit the Leesburg outlets on Black Friday after a several course lunch at COSTCO kiosks. I do have a deep sympathy with Nancy over her loss as I have kids now.

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[borisbad]

Looking at those LPAC videos with Nancy, you certainly can see the same jacket and sweater (not to mention hair style). However, it seems that on one occasion she had no earrings, while she did wear two distinct pairs of earrings. In her defense, perhaps she coordinates her wardrobe by the day of the week, since all these videos were one week apart. The proof would be to see her on a day other than a Wednesday.

[realme]

Looking at those LPAC videos with Nancy, you certainly can see the same jacket and sweater (not to mention hair style). However, it seems that on one occasion she had no earrings, while she did wear two distinct pairs of earrings. In her defense, perhaps she coordinates her wardrobe by the day of the week, since all these videos were one week apart. The proof would be to see her on a day other than a Wednesday.

Assuming, of course, she still gets Sunday off to do laundry. One assassination or financial collapse crisis, and there goes laundry day, throwing off the whole weekly clothing cycle.

[chator]

Here we find the usual with Doctor Webster Tarpley being mentioned.
http://www.cochinshop.com/videos/wak...ered-04-of-16/

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

Tarpley has yet to parrot LaRouche's line that Rand Paul is a fascist, I wonder if he will. The Tea Party has been good to him.

This week's episode of DWTT (Down With The Traitors), which reminds me more and more each week of the 90s Christian news show, This Week in Bible Prophecy, and which could appropriately be titled, "This Week in LaRouche Prophecy", revealed that long-time LCer Mark Calney, whom I knew, has cancer. It seems you were right, xlcr about those carcinogen breathing stations called organizing tables. They audio play his Thanksgiving message, which i excerpt below,

"Before I say anything more, permit me to give you a battle report on my personal condition. This last week a diagnosis was made by a leading expert (LaRouche?) revealing that I have another form of cancer. Potentially more fatal than the stage 4 lymphoma I'm presently fighting. The name of that cancer is the Inter-Alpha group of the British empire, which threatens not only me but human civilization. The cure for that malignant, royal-spawned disease , as you all know, is to be found in the leadership and potential leadership qualities of the people listening to this recording. As for the secondary cancer, I'm in the final stages of my chemotherapy and am happy to report I am kicking the a$$ of that disease. And if all goes well, I should be able to join you for the next Robert Burns supper in January. I initially had a horrible reaction to my first treatment, which affected my heart. I lost over thirty pounds and it landed me in the emergency ward down at Pasadena Hunnington hospital. Those doctors there saved my life. At the darkest moments, when I knew that it was possible that I may not see you again, I kept one thought foremost in my mind, Don't Give Up."

[fightapathy]

What we see today is an amazing socialogical cult study of elderly LCers who should have seen several revolutions in technology around them such as computers, cell phones, nano technology, stem cells etc with the vanishing of the office telex. I would venture to say that most in the cult will yap about numerical machine tools without knowing that small shops can buy CNC hardware and produce detailed products with incredible precision.

And here I was, thinking I'm going crazy while listening to a Daily Report starring the always dapper Ector Rivas a couple of months ago. In it, there was a short audio clip of "LaRouche during the morning briefing" in which, for once, THE DEAR LEADER commented on a current event instead of the usual 5,000 year-old mediterranean thing.

I could've sworn I heard a teletypist in the background, clicking away as THE DEAR LEADER spoke.

I was thinking, "Is that what breakfast is like in the LaRouche home EVERY morning? A clerk of the court has to take down every utterance?

...Even when he demands more Schmalz for his Brod?

[xlcr4life]

Assuming, of course, she still gets Sunday off to do laundry. One assassination or financial collapse crisis, and there goes laundry day, throwing off the whole weekly clothing cycle.

Good point. Not only is laundry day postponed, but so is rent day, utility day, telephone bill day, car ins payment day and car registration day. It amazed me seeing first hand in the National office and regions just how much money was wasted in bounced check fees and late fees for not paying bills. This was turned into an art worthy of any squatter as letting the bachelor pad squalid rentals go 4 months till eviction saved us thousands. Since members had nothing but a few books and their NC/Campaigner collections to move with one suitcase, relocation was easy. Couple that with runing up phone bills and credit cards and the never ending crisis mobes, it was a gold mine to be found just from members. I actually had one member who was in charge of daily money tell me that running up debts is no problem since the economy is going to collapse and everything will be worthless!

One time I was joking with a finance office member and asked them how much money was spent on late fees and charges along with the Fed Express bills to send payments to avoid turn offs from vendors. Laughing, the answer was that you could run a pretty nice local on the waste from the way the insanity took over and money was being diverted.


Of course, you could not run a cult if members had financial independence instead of servitude to Lyn.

Looking at those LPAC videos with Nancy, you certainly can see the same jacket and sweater (not to mention hair style). However, it seems that on one occasion she had no earrings, while she did wear two distinct pairs of earrings. In her defense, perhaps she coordinates her wardrobe by the day of the week, since all these videos were one week apart. The proof would be to see her on a day other than a Wednesday.

You have a good defense, however, this is THE product of LPAC and the cult. This is the showcase of Lyn for the universe and between John Hoeffle and Nancy Spannaus we have a fashion show video of laughter with a Bowery Bum motif. The show look like Larouche and victims of the recession instead of mass strike leaders. Keep your bets on Harley first and Debbie second for the post Lyn death spot based on who has the better wardrobe. The insiders tell me that Lyn loves Harley's preppy look.


Nancy has that crazy eye of fandom of Lyn . It does not seem to bother her one bit how Lyn has treated poor Ed over the decades. The big riddle is what makes the deepest skid marks, a LaroucheMobile in need of a brake job coming to a stop sign or the LPAC hosts fawning over Lyn in the weekly reports and being ignored.

.....This week's episode of DWTT (Down With The Traitors), which reminds me more and more each week of the 90s Christian news show, This Week in Bible Prophecy, and which could appropriately be titled, "This Week in LaRouche Prophecy", revealed that long-time LCer Mark Calney, whom I knew, has cancer. It seems you were right, xlcr about those carcinogen breathing stations called organizing tables. They audio play his Thanksgiving message, which i excerpt below,

Chator during the run up to Y2K, TWIBP was a regular featured show on the Trinity Network. A lot of those viewers are the target for the cult's articles about Rock music, video games and big time plots. Jack Van Impe does a husband / wife show out of a Michigan office park .


http://www.jvim.com/

Hal Lindsey and an endless supply of similar productions put the cult to shame in selling books, videos and their own intell briefs.


About Mark Calney. I would not wish stage 4 Lymphoma on anyone. This is when the cancer spreads to internal organs. It seems unfair to have Lyn outlive most of the people who have serfed him so well for decades. But that is expected.

From my perspective I begin to think about just how many LCers have had incredible medical conditions and hope that our future cult researcher can analyze this. Lyn has had the best life available as the endless high stress environment has kept the cult going and making money to keep the party going. Lyn has had a staff of doctors across two continents with never a worry about anyone else. Just reread his words about the death of Ken Kronberg to get an idea of this. You can not separate the physical and mental conditions of the cult members from the physical outcome in their latter years.



When I first came aorund, I never saw so many chain smokers in my life. The offices were smelly affairs which were hardly ever cleaned, except after eviction by the landlord. The fumes from sky high stacked NS bundles and the run off from the mimeo machine chemicals was the regular atmosphere along with smoke and body odor.


I heard Lyn in person at one conference we put together where he told the room that cigarettes do not cause cancer. Lyn smoked a pipe and just about every member had to get a pipe in a comical look when you look back. Second hand smoke? Forget it, we did not think that smoking was bad.


What are the some of the possible causes of Lymphoma?



One risk is benzene molecules which we find in what?



-Auto exhaust.



-Petroleum fuels.



-Cigarette smoke.



Our older members were in a no win situation. If you were a field hand, you were doing exit ramp deployments day in and day out.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...supporters.jpg


That picture is pretty tame compared to our ramp squads in the 70s and 80s. You would be dropped off at an exit ramp from a freeway and stay there all day untill you were picked up. That meant that tens of thousands of cars and trucks were spewing carcinogen laded exhaust to your nostrils and lungs. If you were in the office, you got the smoke and filth.


We also went after Teamster and truckers money by deploying at truck stops. There you not only had non stop exhaust, but also had non stop direct fuel spillage pooling on the ground for your breathing pleasure. A card table shrine in a big city gave you enldess cars, busses and trucks to inhale as well. On the way to your destiny you probably had a LaroucheMobile with a fallen off muffler and exhaust spewing into the interior. Outdoors you received sun exposure far beyond what is acceptable. Then back to the office with some fries to stay up into the late night and up again to do it all over again My God you were doomed.

You then have to do this every day for years and years along with a never ending high stress level to see how many members have turned out as they hit their 60s.


There is more to this madness however. Part of being in the LC was that there was no such thing as industrial or chemical pollution since that was the method the oligarchy used to shut down industry and create the new dark ages to kill of billions. Life is a bitch as Mark Calney ran for office many times on our platform of hating environmentalists as being a hundred times worse then Hitler. We all had that campaign and if there was any industrial or toxis waste spill, it was a plot or a hoax like the Three MIle Island Nuclear plant core meltdown was.


What I find interesting is that when it comes to the effects of certain pollutants, they may not appear for many years. The question is always "what if?"


What if you were not in the LC and you did not inhale those toxic fumes at the intersections?



What if you were not in a smoke filled room for 16 hours a day?



What if you did not spend all of your time in a highly stressful state?



What if you were not sleep deprived for decades?



What if you worked a regular 40 hour a week job instead of 6 to 7 days a week for ever?



What if your diet was not based on the dollar menu?



What if you had that inflamed lymph node checked out, that regular mammogram or blood test instead of being so sick you had to see a doctor?



What if you spent 6 years in school instead of being half asleep in a smelly cult office during a lecture till midnight.



What if you did not accompany Nancy Spannaus to that abortion clinic decades ago?



What if you spent making your life easier instead of Lyn's?



I do not wish for anyone still in the cult to pass away. But why do we find older LCers passing away years and years before an 88 year old Larouche?



Is it the Schiller Institute obit you will get asking for a donation by Helga?





Larouche Palooza 2010!



-A former member mentioned yesterday had his work featured on the DAILY KOS site today.



-This question



http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9212130AAdqUFf

If Lyndon LaRouche started a third party could he save America from itself?

led to these answers. Where are the Jabronis when you need them?

Sigh, he tried that in the 1970s and failed miserably. His message of hate did not resonate with Americans...............



No.......



He's almost as big a crackpot as you!...



No.

He tried that before and failed miserably.........



Maybe. I like Larouche, but he's 88 now. I'd be interested to see who his associates and supporters would be. Maybe Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, Jesse Ventura? I wonder how THAT would shake out!

"Americans must quickly and suddenly change the behavior of this president (Obama)"
~ Lyndon LaRouche in 2009 regarding Obamacare.....

-Hmm, the same sort of question makes it to this Soviet Emorire forum.... with the same results, expanded.



http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/vi...f=126&p=819071

Dose anyone here know anything about Lyndon LaRouche? Politically what is he a communist, socialist, Marxist, fascist, conservative?




He seemed to have been a Marxist at one point, but appears to have abandoned those ideas and has now moved into conspiracy theories and full-blown insanity. There's some criticisms that he is an advocate for fascism, antisemitism, and Holocaust denial. Considering that Mussolini started out as a socialist before going completely to the other side, I'd say this Larouche fella is probably in the same boat.

I have no idea what the man is about. I've seen some of his supporters around campus, and when I first ran into some 3 years ago, they seemed to be into a lot of bizarre conspiracy theories involving the British Empire and like trying to instigate a war between Russia, China, USA, and India, countries that should be working together and solve the world's problems, to prevent them from working together and ensure British supremacy in world affairs, and somehow the Dalai Lama is involved as a pawn... Lately, he seemed like he has either gone to the far end of bat$hit insane or has been bought off by the Republicans, because now I just see his supporters walking around with signs opposing Obama's health care plan and with pictures of Obama with the Hitler mustache.

I'm pretty sure they're just a bunch of lunatics and should be treated as such—ignored or institutionalized.

Here's a Wikipedia article, though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_of_L ... e_movement

Try to make some sense out of that if you can. I'm pretty sure they're all fragging bat$hit insane. If you ever try to talk to one of them you'll be wondering just WTF goes on in their head the whole time. Well, actually... you know what? Don't bother talking to them. They're nuts. I can't stress that enough...............

LaRouche started out as a member of the Socialist Workers Party, i.e. a Trotskyite, and devolved from there into his own special brand of conspiracy theory insanity. He's not exactly a Marxist, nor indeed a fascist, but an especially bizarre blend of the two. His organization is basically on par with the RCP "Cult of Bob", except that he's actually been able to place several of his own followers on Democratic Party tickets from time to time....

I tried to find a summary of LaRouche's views but I can't because his views are incoherent and makes little sense. I don't think his views are a product of a rational mind and he seems a bit loco..............

I do not know about the rest of you, but you just may need to be inhaling carcinogenic exhaust every day to view Lyn as your reason to live.

xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[Peter_Tennenbaum]

C = 256 joke

All,

This is page 256, hopefully. I pulled off a C=256 joke against various LaR-types, including my late-brother, in 8/2002.

For those with minimal technical training you will understand it. But you needn't even have that to get the gist. To wit:

LaRouche et al, (including, of course, my late-brother) wanted, and presumably still want, to change the standard pitch from A = 440Hz to C = 256Hz. Of course they never tell you what the value of C is in the present-day A=440 equal temperament tuning (its an "irrational" number kids -- 261.6255... ). Technically, the tuning system is based on the function 2^x; when x=8 you get 256 -- two raised to the eight power. Raise it to the seventh power and you obtain 128 which, if it were a frequency, in hertz, would be an octave lower.

So there are mathematical functions involved. Exponentiation and taking logarithms. Technically a "cent" is 1/1200th of an octave. 100 cents is a semitone. (look up the details, kids, these things are explained everywhere).

So I made some recordings, years ago, when I used to play (1976-1980). I had a single lesson, that is it; I am self-taught. But to play well, you have to practice. It is a lot of work. I mastered, to some extent, Bach pieces -- a vast assortment, from almost all collections.

I much preferred, however, to listen to my recordings, because only every 50 or 100 times I played, did I really have the right feeling, from beginning to end. So I made some tapes during these years.

After Winstar collapsed and I was living in Middletown, VA, writing a book on The Mathematical Rudiments of Ring Memory Devices, I digitized these recordings and made a CD. I play slow and try to be lyrical. Times had changed a bit, however, and so to liven things up and play a joke on LaRouche et al, I sped up the recordings by a certain exact amount. And, therefore, the pitch rose. I arranged it, however, so that it would rise by EXACTLY the same amount that it would fall, if you lowered the standard pitch to C = 256Hz in equal temperament. It is only a fraction of a semitone anyway, it is small. A ridiculous amount to argue about for singers and register shifts.

Note, however, that most of the recordings were on a piano that was not tuned to equal temperament. I tuned to a specific well-temperament that had some pure major thirds, in particular C to E, which is used a lot. Most people simply don't hear pure thirds anymore -- they are debased, horribly, in equal temperament.

Fine. I now make a nice label and package it beautifully and send it out. It gets very nice reviews. Many people said it was the ONLY classical disk they could listen to from beginning to end (it was baroque not classical, but that is a technicality). I was elated at the reception. It is still played by these same people, and often.

My brother chimed in, essentially saying that it was fantastic and that portions of it were the best musical interpretations he had ever heard of those pieces. He called for "more". He generally liked my playing so I was not surprised. And there was no competitive thing on my part, because, pre-LaRouche, he was probably the best organist in the world. No question.

So I caught him in a joke and as a total liar. He liked the music at the tuning that was higher than the tuning that ruined music. And that tuning was raised, on average, by just the amount that he and LaR wanted to lower it by. You can hear three pieces for yourself:

www.dynastring.com

The final track is the reverse soundwave of the next to final track. It sounds odd, like an synthesizer-type organ.

Of course, some people with perfect pitch get very upset as it hurts their ears. Now, however, using advanced software and digital processing, you can speed up the playing and adjust the pitch, independently. An engineer friend says that you cannot tell the difference between an adjusted tone and the original. So maybe I will produce another one at C=256 and/or the standard pitch.

I simply think it is a funny joke. I doubt any of you will, but I have somewhat different tastes. It would be better if LaR himself commented on the CD without knowing that it was at the higher pitch (or knowing who was playing!). This assumes that he likes music, which I rather doubt, as he has them play the same hideous (non-harmonious) violin piece before every webcast that I have ever "tuned into to"... well, tuning into ON TIME.

For those who don't like it, please post LaRouche playing the same Bach tunes.

Peter T

[eaglebeak]

Wow! It doesn't get any better than this. (Emphasis added. What a hoot.)

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16655

The crucial strategic issue of this moment:

A LOT OF PLAIN FACTS

By Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.

November 28, 2010

Take the current British imperial rape of Ireland, yet again as since the presently long tradition of William of Orange’s reign (in particular), as a case in point.

[fightapathy]

Take the current British imperial rape of Ireland, yet again as since the presently long tradition of William of Orange’s reign (in particular), as a case in point.

Who in their right mind begins an essay like this? Oh. I answered my own question...! I can't wait to read the next sentence:

First, of all, for me, coming fresh from a review of the design for global hyperinflation just uttered as a report from the European group mustered for the rape of Ireland, and, imminently, Spain, too, the most important thing to do, is to warn the prospective suckers, including certain governments in that class presently, not to make the same kind of stupid blunder which was made among all of the then constituted nations of Europe, excepting the perpetrators, the British and Dutch of the time, whose role as credulously quarreling underdogs, was made in duping Europe into that so-called “Seven Years War” of 1756-1763 which launched the British Empire and set the stage for the wrecking of virtually all of Europe at that time for the ensuing, combined effects of the French Revolution and the Napoleonic wars, that through and beyond the 1812-1815 schemes of London and Metternich in the course of the Vienna Congress.

My my, only 17 commas in this sentence. I saw places for at least six more. THE DEAR LEADER must be slipping in his frail dotage.

I have an interesting book called "The Art of Illuminated Manuscripts" wherein a paragraph-long sentence contained no fewer than 30 commas. But that book was originally written in 1830, and such was the style of nigh on two centuries past.

As far as I know, Lyn only dates to the earlier part of one century past. Why does his writing style date that much earlier? Or does he even write at all?

Perhaps a teletypist takes down his utterances with a machine built in the 1930s. Or does he use a voice-recognition program that costs less than a new ink tape for said machine?

[borisbad]

Brilliant.

It took me years after extricating myself from the LaRouche personality cult to learn the importance of SELF CARE.

Let's assume that you are changing history - a HUGE assumption given that all you do is sell subs and whatnot - but let's assume that your work is important for the future of humanity. By proper hygiene, nutrition, medical care, education, and other habits of self care, would you not be a better instrument for carrying out your work? And if the Leader viewed you as valuable, would he or she permit you to avoid self care? But here you're in a situation where you are treated as if you were entirely expendable. Doesn't that tell you something? But, no, it won't, nor did it me, until the extreme cruelty of the organization finally penetrated the thick film of denial plastic-wrapped about me. And whatever trauma it is you're running from, you need help. There's no escape through compulsive "organizing" and self-abuse, as it were.

One of my mistakes was that I projected my good intentions onto the leadership and assumed for a long time that there must be some political need for these harsh conditions.

But there isn't.

I'm sorry but your analogy doesn't work since LaRouche always has people in war time mode and the image that creates in the members is being like George Washington's soldiers at Valley Forge, no socks, no shoes, struggling with a harsh winter. It's a great way to buck up the morale of the troops who have been run ragged for the past forty going on fifty years. According to LaRouche, the more important you are the more you are going to suffer (unless of course you are in the top leadership like Lyn, Helga and Jeff. But they need to live better because they are like the generals deploying their troops (of course great leaders like Patton actually led their troops in battle, they didn't sit back in headquarters moving the troops around on their boards.

[Peter_Tennenbaum]

In principle, I see no objection to super-long sentences with many commas, if appropriate.

Franz Kafka, my favorite fiction writer (by far), was a master at writing incredibly long sentences that were super-clear and contained "some" punctuation. If I recall correctly, one story is only two sentences and the first sentence is an incredibly long paragraph, amply punctuated.

Lincoln used many, many commas; but he actually had something to say--to put it mildly.

The main problem is that LaR has nothing to new to say; worse, now there is NO content. I recently talked with a person on this board, behind the scenes, about the famous little book by Strunk and White (now abridged by one or more morons, IMO). The original versions were models for concise beautiful writing and the proper use of punctuation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Style

Instead of simply repeating the same content (albeit now deteriorating, although I ALWAYS thought it is was inanely presented), why doesn't LaRouche simply work on a single beautiful essay/book that is super-polished? Done! Then consult "The Book". Done! Repeat and Rinse (well).

The "story" goes that someone asked Bach why he repeated the same theme in a composition so many times. He replied, "Because it is beautiful and I am a nice man" or something similar. More likely I am remembering the words of the great Oswald Jonas who told this to me and/or J.T. when we were young and he was talking about Bach or Beethoven ("He repeated it because he was a nice man").

In LaR's case the opposite could be said: He repeats because he is not a nice guy and he enjoys boring people to death. Or perhaps he gets off giving speeches and watching brain cells die in real time as he has none left and misery loves company.

Final banal words: Eaglebeak did well to simply put up a single LaR sentence. Why oh why, FightApathy, do you respond by posting more?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Strunk and White, Strunk and White, Strunk and White... Worth repeating.


Earnest One -- December 1, 2010