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    Further proof that "Lyn's" dementia continues to encroach. I guess no one dares edit him so as to avoid the following. "A Future Physical Economist" begins

    I was still lodged within the legal age of 15, during the Summer preceding my September birthday, when my father consigned my summer-times, repeatedly, to a lowly apprenticeship as a hand-dinker in a shoe-manufacturing plant in Peabody, Massachusetts, a feasible walking distance from my residence in the City of Lynn.

    The fifth paragraph begins with this excerpt from an earlier work:

    My first gainful employment began before my sixteenth birthday, in a Summer's job as what is called a "hand-dinker" — at twenty-five cents an hour — in a slipper-manufacturing firm.

    Must be scary for the boomers that the pension plan will likely not come through.

    http://larouchepac.com/node/21506

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_Tennenbaum View Post
    Bingo! Herm's true colors are revealed.

    I've been quite quiet since that truly bizarre initial attack on me and Herm's inane, psychologically insane comment about a picture I posted; apparently it represented electronic garage sale junk (yeah, a Fluke 77 multimeter only costs almost 300 bucks just by itself, not to mention a 600 dollar IC in that little circuit and a host of other items (none of which elicited a single question from Herm); and besides, the picture was simply part of a beam weapons joke. It appears that it stimulated "something" in Herm. The circumstances were quite interesting given that this board was filled with comments about card tables and the LYM, the so-called boomers, and their dead end card table lives). Herm tried to tie me into that in a very weird way and I concluded that he/she/it was an ex-LaRouchie or a de-facto supporter (lipstick on a pig); but I've said little until now.

    Suddenly ALL appears crystal clear. Israel supported South Africa!!! Gee, big news. Touche!!! What a revelation!!! But what about LaRouche's well-documented support of African dictators and, in particular, the work he did spying on opponents of apartheid?

    http://lyndonlarouche.org/larouche-f...-apartheid.htm

    Yes, some material put up by Dennis King, although much of his analysis is from original source material (standard policy for him and ALL genuine, honest scholars). But we need not resort to Dennis here. LaRouche's work for the brutal South African regime is well known and written about in many places. It is a strong piece of evidence that Lyn says one thing but does another and that he represents "ideology for hire".

    But now Friend and Herm criticize Israel. Fine, great, and for all I know, completely justified. On the other hand, surely everyone here knows about LaRouche's involvement in the support of apartheid. In one little slip, Herm's true colors were revealed

    It is really quite apropos, this latest development. I've had a sneaking suspicion that Herm and "Friend/Ace" have been playing a little game here for the last few months, but the speed of the attack on Israel and its support of apartheid is something to behold, given the history of the ICLC's support of apartheid. And now we have public support from Herm for "The Ace Team". I guess Herm has close ties, psychologically, to Lyn. It was sad seeing XLCR--a truly decent guy--propping up Herm's comments just weeks after Herm excoriated XLCR and other ex-members. And, just like "The Ace Team" it is all just for fun. Oh yes, mediocrity is great too. And with interest rates so high, it is easy to make thousands every day/week/month. Child's play.

    Any comments, Dennis? Someone mentioned long ago that Herm was actually a sock puppet for "Friend/Ace/The Team". Friend's response simply didn't ring true. Now we have some hard core evidence. Criticizing Israel given the ICLC's history is beyond the pale. It is wildly revealing, irrespective of what Israel has done.

    TOUCHE!!!!! (big deal...)

    Earnest_one Not proof read or even really read; simply mis-dis-articulated out of a semi-clean instrument of communication. For the record, note that this was my first "official" user name, under which I openly revealed my true identity--my real name and address, etc -- after being warned, repeatedly--by many posters--never to do this. I posted under Revisor for about 1/3,000 of the lifespan of the LaRouche thread on Factnet and, again, I openly revealed myself (yeah, I "admitted" to it... hilarious). When it was pointed out that holding two accounts was against policy I openly asked for help closing my Peter_Tennenbaum account. Neither the Factnet staff nor anyone on this board came to my assistance (so much for the great concern about multiple accounts or for the expertise of the critical people here. So, three accounts, TOTAL, and with ALL of them I revealed my true identity. Revisor lasted two or three weeks. Sounds very suspicious, right!?? This is a Big Deal?!!! This is ALL you have? How pitiful, just like the nonsense about my "famous call on FACTNET" for Jonathan to jump off a bridge. Famous calls can be issued from FACTNET?!!; besides, the content of the accusation is erroneous -- I NEVER "called" for JT to commit suicide; this is banal nonsense produced by the bizarro world). Friend LIED when he recently wrote that I held four accounts here. I didn't respond, so he posts again and brings it down to three accounts, which is true, albeit highly misleading because with EACH and EVERY account, I revealed my true identity. This is easy to verify, too. Or, simply call me up (as many have done over the years). I am a Public Figure, attacked in EIR (wow, what a thrill); now go back to discussing how a forecast differs from a prediction and LaRouche has never been wrong.
    Herm is a sock of mine? Part of your Ace Team fantasy? A sly game has been played? You "only" had three different FACTnet accounts to trick everyone with? Comment Dennis? LOL

    Peter have you be sniffing paint fumes again? You sound awfully discombobulated.

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    Someone at Lynquarters must be reading FactNet: in the February 8 Weekly Report, John's grey sneakies are in full view. In addition, I liked that Sky often addressed his presentation to John; maybe the kid has some decency in him, unlike the old man to his right, who, however, was gracious enough to give both Sky and Cody joint credit for their work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friend View Post
    Israel teams with terror group to kill Iran's nuclear scientists, U.S. officials tell NBC News

    http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_new...-tell-nbc-news


    dking the LC connection is that EIR had this story about 7 years ago. You like talking about death squads. Let's talk about the ones Israel runs.

    You shouldn't have tipped him off, Friend. Now he's going to try to get MSNBC banned from Google News.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herm View Post
    Or their manipulation of U.S. foreign policy, e.g. Netanyahu's blackmailing of Obama over the U.N. Palestine vote.
    I have to admit, I thought he was going to have a much more balanced Middle East policy than this.

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    http://larouchepac.com/node/21460

    Listen to it along with my transcription if you don't believe me. Again starts at 49:10. I know this is a symptom of age, but come on. This man is a shaman. A witch-doctor. Speaking in tongues. The loss of his capacity for lucid speech doesn't do LPAC any good. But that doesn't mean he ever made sense in the first place.

    So was this the answer that the "group in the United States intelligence establishment" was hoping for?


    Ciampion I think the "United States intelligence establishment" Larouche is talking about are the elderly leftovers in security who have been picking up his underwear for a few decades. They have a code name of "Gophers". This is a Grandpa Simpson moment to be cherished. All that is missing is a laughtrack.



    The fifth paragraph begins with this excerpt from an earlier work:

    My first gainful employment began before my sixteenth birthday, in a Summer's job as what is called a "hand-dinker" — at twenty-five cents an hour — in a slipper-manufacturing firm.

    Must be scary for the boomers that the pension plan will likely not come through.

    http://larouchepac.com/node/21506


    Hand Dinker? Sounds just like Grandpa Simpson here Herm.



    http://youtu.be/ARXfQzfl9EQ







    Larouche is Right 2012!



    The card table shrine is what it is all about after several decades and hundreds of millions of dollars have been expended.



    -More from MA. The comments reflect the act of removing the sign with hardly anyone caring about the cult or Larouche's universal mission to save humanity. Go figure.



    http://tewksbury.patch.com/articles/...e-illegal-poll




    Sears: LaRouche's Derogatory Obama Sign 'Inappropriate,' 'Illegal' (POLL)
    Selectman and his wife took sign from LaRouchePAC workers and took it to Police Headquarters



    Selectman Doug Sears said he has no regrets over helping his wife remove a large poster featuring a likeness of President Barack Obama with a "Hitler mustache" from off a utility pole near Bank of America on Thursday, Feb. 2.

    Sears said he could see the poster as he drove along East Street, approaching Main Street but had no intention of removing it.

    His wife had other ideas.

    According to Sears, as his car sat idling at a stop sign, Suzanne Sears got out and headed over to where a member of LaRouchePac, the political action committee of former controversial presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche, had set up a small informational table along the sidewalk near Bank of America.

    But it was the large poster of Obama that was Ms. Sears target. It's a poster LaRouche and his supporters have used to compare the Obama administration with Nazi Germany since 2009.

    "My wife can be a bit impulsive," said Doug Sears, who said he pulled over and got out of his car to make sure she would be safe. "She got out of the car and said, 'No one's going to disrespect my president in my town.'"

    When they got to the sign, there was a brief exchange of words, according to Sears, with a LaRouchePac worker claiming he had permission from police for what he was doing.

    Sears says he has no problem with the public assembly on the sidewalk. He pointed out there was a union protest going on at the same time on the Town Common. What caught Sears' attention was that the Obama sign had been attached to the utility pole, something he believes to be illegal because the pole is privately owned by a utility company.

    "I'm pretty sure he didn't have permission to put the sign on private property," said Sears, a Republican who plans to run against incumbent state Rep. Jim Miceli, D-Wilmington, in the fall. Sears also said he found the visual of a poster of a black man on a pole resembled "a lynching" and was inappropriate for the center of Tewksbury.

    In response to the man's assertion of police permission, Sears and his wife took the sign and headed over to nearby Police Headquarters. As they arrived, the LarouchePac worker (whose name has not been made available) had already called dispatch to complain about his sign being taken.

    At Police Headquarters, the Sears' spoke with Deputy Chief John Voto and left the sign. According to the police report, a detective photographed the sign and no charges were filed.

    "The Municipal Law Unit at the Attorney General’s Office has reviewed the matter and doesn’t see any civil rights violation which would be appropriate for prosecution by their office," said Police Chief Timothy Sheehan. "They have deferred to the D.A.’s Office for any potential criminal prosecution. The D.A’s Office is currently reviewing the matter."

    Reached by telephone, a spokesperson for LaRouchePac's Boston office had no official comment on the incident.

    -We next head to the very cold Pleasantville NJ where we find that the card table shrine is still the home after I would guess, 35 years to old time LCers Art Murphy and Margaret Greenspan. They have no complaints . Margaret was at the same meeting I was at in the swanky NYC Sutton Place townhouse we had with Larouche. Larouche told us point blank that there will never, never be an end to the card table shrines and by golly, Larouche is right. Her and Elliot's best friend left along with her husband soon after that meeting. We used to run Elliot for office in NJ yearly and he was a pretty common site to see or read in the media. These days, he has been seen at card table shrines. Margaret is a very talented pianist. Soon after that meeting Margaret's long time field oganiser partner just pulled up to the W58th st office and emptied her trunk of a card table and a few milk cases of lit to the curb.



    http://pleasantville.patch.com/artic...-pleasantville



    LaRouche PAC Visits Pleasantville

    Two LaRouche PAC members talked about the need for change to members of the Pleasantville community in front of the Post Office this morning.

    Margaret Greenspan and Art Murphy, New Jersey residents, said they are members of a national movement to bring sanity to the politicial process. Much of their signage called for the impeachment of President Barack Obama.





    By "literature," you mean fallacy-based propaganda.

    These people were insane.............



    Every now and then, these creatures show up at a strip mall on Lee Blvd in Jefferson Valley. I called all of the shops and informed them that I could no longer subject myself and they were losing me as a patron because their landlord allowed this nonsense. I miss JV bagels, but I haven't returned.
    Strange, but these are probably the same people who questioned the patriotism of those who criticized President Bush............



    They are an affront to any society and human being. Last time they showed Obama with a Hitler mustache on their posters. I voiced my loud disagreement with their "marketing strategy" and because of my German accent they promptly called me a "brown shirt", insulting me and falsely stereotyping me in the process. I don't see them using the offending Obama posters anymore - so far so good. Still, that they get away with this kind of propaganda in this day and age is mind-boggeling to me............


    -We head to Texas where another 35 plus year LCer is still at the card table shrine. What is with the following people to cars? I thought we just did that in Kmart parking lots when we had the lit in our hands and no table..





    http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedconten...4569f4b7b.html




    County denies PAC’s request

    Larouche supporters not allowed to appear at tax office after complaints


    07:16 AM CST on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

    By Bj Lewis / Staff Writer


    Denton County commissioners Tuesday denied a request from a political action group to set up shop in front of the Horn Government Center.

    The group, which is affiliated with controversial political activist Lyndon Larouche, had reportedly caused problems for residents in the past. The Commissioners Court, particularly County Judge Mary Horn, was leery of allowing group members back at the center, which houses the county tax assessor-collector, public works and other offices.

    “On Friday the 27th of January, we started getting phone calls and e-mails from folks that were over at the tax office, and the comments were they didn’t appreciate being followed to their car and they felt harassed,” Horn said.

    She said that was a busy time at the tax office with county residents filing in and out to take care of tax-related business before the Jan. 31 deadline.

    Horn said she also received an e-mail with a photo that showed that the demonstrators — who never advised any officials of their intent to have a presence — had signs taped to the windows of the government center.

    Horn had some sheriff’s deputies go to the government center to inform the demonstrators about the proper procedure and forms they needed to fill out to be there.

    “Which they didn’t like, but they agreed to it and they left, [and] they came over here and got the paperwork to fill out,” she said.

    Horn said the group wanted to appear at county buildings in Denton, Lewisville, Carrollton, The Colony and other locations.

    “In my viewpoint, they are bothering people that need to arrive and depart that building to conduct business, and that’s not right,” Horn said. “The content is his business; when it comes to protecting the citizens, that is our business. That’s why I made the motion to deny.”

    Commissioner Hugh Coleman voiced his concern about the county using prior restraint in the matter and the argument being made that the county was using past behavior to judge future action by the demonstrators.

    Coleman asked County Attorney John Feldt about the issue and he assured court members that they would not be in violation of any free speech rights in the application denial. The argument was that the space the group was using was used to go to and from the tax office to conduct business and was not subject to free-speech violations.

    “While I don’t agree with what those fellows have to say and the manner and means in which they say it, I think we need to respect their right to say it,” Coleman said. “And the reason I voted to deny their permit was based on the legal advice of our attorney who said we would not be violating any free speech rights.”

    Horn also took the opportunity to broach the idea of touching up the county’s building usage policy and application form.

    Court members were in agreement on this, and Commissioner Bobbie Mitchell suggested a modification she wanted to see — that any applicant have someone living in the county to sponsor them on the application. Horn also wanted to change the application to specify which building an applicant wishes to use.

    “This is a profound injustice to the First Amendment,” said Craig Holtzclaw, an organizer for the Larouche Political Action Committee. “We’re not inside the building; we’re not screaming at people, we’re not locking the doors. They just invented this authority because they got complaints and acted on those complaints.”

    Holtzclaw denied claims that members of his group had taped signs to the building or were harassing people or following them to their cars as they shared their views, which included impeaching President Barack Obama, canceling bailouts and stopping what they see as the president’s and Republicans’ attempts to start a new war.

    “We got a phenomenally positive response,” Holtzclaw said. “This is uncomfortable for [some people] to confront this dangerous reality, so they call the county commissioners and complain, so they apply an ordinance that is unconstitutional.”

    Holtzclaw said the group would be returning to Denton County in places where they are allowed to conduct their political activities, such as the post office.




    Larouche uses two of the three legs of the cult stool



    -Economic collapse

    -Thermonuclear war

    -The New Dark Ages





    for his latest web cast. Do you LYM and LYMettes ever think that this will change? Craig, Margaret and Art have not caught on yet and they have been card table shrining for over 35 years for the same cheap parlor tricks. I guess that the mass killings by Obama are the gas chambers that Larouche confidently stated in October of last year to be running have their certificates of occupancy posted by the local building code offices

    http://www.larouchepub.com/pr_lar/20...call_arms.html




    American statesman Lyndon LaRouche took to the airwaves at LPAC-TV last night, to issue a deadly serious "call to arms" to American patriots, against the imminent threat of the British detonation of thermonuclear World War III, through their puppet Barack Obama.

    "Nobody's paying attention to reality," LaRouche said.

    "We have two threats: the economic collapse, a chain reaction collapse in the trans-Atlantic system which will take over the whole world; the other thing is a thermonuclear war, which will leave maybe nobody alive on this planet, at least no human being, alive on this planet when it stops."

    you're going to find, assuredly, before November, you're going to see the attempt to launch a thermonuclear war, by London and by Obama. You will see mass killings, orchestrated by Obama, against U.S. citizens..


    Our cult researchers and grad students who study this cult have a lot of material to use here. The now elderly LCers mentioned all joined in the mid 1970s and were raising money for Larouche with our nuclear war mobe MC14/4 while then President Jimmy Carter was conspiring with the Trilateral Commission to launch a thermo nuclear war. Scattered along the way like pixie dust are Rockefeller launched pandemics which will reduce the world's population. Carter was a 100 times worse than Hitler. Once Carter was gone and Regan was in office, everyone was far away from being hard core communists and socialists to American System clean cut boys and girls where Rocky simply vanished and The British took over while the Communist Russians played the villains for Larouche. AIDS was now the pandemic which the KGB launched and the Russian Orthodox Church was part of the plan to launch thermo Nuclear War. Just three years ago Larouche had the swine flu as the pandemic to end the human race by billions in a plot led by The British. No matter who or what was the then villain, everything would end with The New Dark Ages. This circle of never ending villains changes as time goes by, but the three legged stool does not and neither does the serfdom of the card table shrine or being promoted to the boiler room.



    Two of the three LCers here knew the ex member I posted a few weeks ago who ran into two LYM members at a post office. Here it is again for researchers.




    Twilight Zone episode. A fascinating recent encounter between an exlc and a LYM/LYMette combo at the Post Office. This reads like an episode where someone from the past travels to the future to warn them about the cult which stays clueless .





    ...... visiting my local Post Office ......, what do I found outside, but a LaRouche table, with 2 younger than me handlers.

    I approached and initiated the dialogue by saying "I did what you are doing for 5 years. Are you making minimum wage yet ?"

    I guess that was inflammatory, but I stayed to view the literature. I saw NOTHING except white/black leaflets, no magazines at all, no newspaper either !

    The woman backed down quickly, and gave the moment to her male co-hort who asked "Are you willing to help us stop nuclear war?"

    I said, "I've was stopping nuclear war in 1980. And I was evicted from my apartment because the local did not pay my rent. I lived on 10$ a day (for 2 people). I was treated worse than all the world's "workers" you and I think should be paid a fair wage for a fair day of labor."

    He grew agitated IMO.



    "Can you give $100 to stop nuclear war ?" I said yes, but I already did.

    "I gave thousands of dollars to the cause. But LaRouche lived better than I ever did."

    "He's an old man."


    Yeah.

    What I found most sad about the event was that the fellow did not want to "Socratically" argue with me. He wanted my money now, or nothing to do with me.

    I was chilly (not wearing a winter coat.)

    "If you're not willing to help stop world war, then you're wasting my time."

    I looked around and answered, "there's no one else here at the table."

    I suppose if I were a better person, I would have offered to go buy them some soup and bring it back to the table.

    I think the organization is on its last legs.




    Those last legs are the table legs of a card table shrine.


    The famous Sutton Place meeting with Larouche took place about 30 years ago. My God, how much has the world changed in 30 years in every aspect of life? I work in a field that did not exist back then. People have had, raised and seen their kids leave college as graduates and off to new careers. You could have bought or sold a few homes along the way or paid of a 30 year mortgage. Small funds invested along the way would have compounded over time to large sums. Along the way were several ups and downs in every market but a far larger population exists with far more people living better. The Northern Va corridor is one of the busiest parts of the country with a very high income level. The land we owned would have been an incredible endowment if kept and sold or developed instead of squandered. The best some one above received was the chance to perform like a minstrel for Lyn and Helga at Club Ibykus as a day of relief from the airport or post office card table shrine.



    It is truly staggering to know that in the course of a third of a century, so much can happen to your family, education, business etc while your friends have not caught on yet to how this side show works and will be there till the day the die. No questioning about the money being sent to grifters. Anyone who has access to the web can read what has been posted here for several years and see how every thing for the cult is just an adventure on a never ending hamster wheel. Hundreds of millions of dollars and several decades have been expended for a cult of personality where you really can't tell when one mobe began or ended since it all just runs together with a never ending crisis which can only be stopped by raising money. Instead of having to work your way through boxes of New Solidarities to see how it all is just recanned, you can just look up any combination of LPAC dates and hear the exact same troika of terror by Larouche to keep his housing, dining, health and travel pleasures never ending.



    The LYM and LYMettes will be performing the same vital functions for Helga as our now much older LCers do, no matter what you think. I used to think that it is never too late to reclaim your life, but that becomes extremely hard once you are nearing your 60s and 70s in the cult.



    Poof. Your life is gone. Time does go by faster and faster as you get older. It is more fulfilling to visit colleges for your kids to enroll in than to visit colleges to get kids to drop out of.





    Have a great weekend.



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    HAHAHAHAHA

    Thanks, X. I guess nineteen dickety two was not a notable birth year for economists.

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    Both Peter and Not-friend have asked that I comment on the recent postings. In my opinion, Not-friend, unable to answer clear, simple questions about his/her/its behavior and ideas, has resorted once again to an old LaRouche trick. Can't answer the questions? Change the subject. Attack the Jews. Make Israel the issue.

    There are honest people in this country with honestly held criticisms of Israel. I might agree with them on some things; on most things, I probably wouldn't. But I wouldn't automatically slap a label on them.

    However, LaRouchians--with their long history of rabid Jew baiting using themes borrowed from the Nazis and from British fascists of the 1930s, and their support for Nazi war criminals--are not honest critics of anything. And those ex-LaRouchians who still have the LaRouche ideology branded in their brains even though they quit the cult to avoid further personal exploitation, are not honest critics either: some of them have slunk back into the left after decades defending Nazi war criminals and rightwing death squads (and apartheid) on behalf of LaRouche, and are trying to present their "LaRouchism without LaRouche" as part of the left--or as part of the Red-Brown coalition. (I 'm speaking of YOU, Webster Tarpley, among others.) Thus, we see a certain knee-jerk impulse to join with Not-friend in changing the subject and turning this board into the Factnet Anti-Zionism Hooray-for-Iranian-Nuclear-Weapons Forum.

    I can see that Not-friend--who is obviously a well informed person or persons (acting on behalf of the LaRouche organization on this discussion board)--is really nervous about two things in particular: the threat that the full truth about the LaRouche organization's support for death squads and torturers (including in apartheid South Africa) is going to come out, and that the truth about the death of Jeremiah Duggan is going to be revealed (including WHY the German security services came to LaRouche's defense on this). It's curious that Not-friend has not mentioned the ongoing scandal in Germany, which began last fall, about neo-Nazi infiltration of the security services and the coverup of neo-Nazi murders of Turkish immigrants over the past decade. This scandal has focussed in part on the state of Hesse's Office of Constitutional Protection in Wiesbaden which was headed in 2003 (the time of Jeremiah's death) by an official who then moved to the state prosecutors' office in 2005 and played the leading role thereafter in blocking any homicide investigation of Jeremiah's death.

    So suddenly we have the flood of accusations about Israel, Israel, evil Israel, Mrs. Duggan needs a psychiatrist, Dennis King is "using" the Duggans (note the sudden solicitude for the same Duggans that the LaRouche organization has caused so much grief to and focussed so much sadism on), etc.

    I'm not fooled by Not-friend's latest attempts to change the subject, which are virtually identical to those of Ace. (Whenever LaRouche was criticized, Ace would start screaming about the ADL, while the LaRouchians without LaRouche would jump in with attacks on the British Empire as worse than Hitler.)

    The many sensible ex-LaRouchians who visit this site from time to time might not want to get into this particular debate, figuring that Not-friend's programmed responses lead into a closed loop of lunacy. I would hope, however, they would not allow Not-friend (or it is the Not-friend team?) to get away with his/their ongoing attacks on Erica Duggan and on the memory of her son without appropriate responses.

    Oh, and don't be fooled by all that stuff about Erica Duggan being a puppet of Dennis King. First, it's simply not true. Second, Not-friend is framing the argument in such a way as to make it difficult for you to defend Mrs. Duggan or the Justice for Jeremiah campaign without defending the Evil Dennis King. Weren't you all fooled for far too long by LaRouche's reframing tricks? When you read Not-friend's stuff about the Duggan case simply cross out my name on grounds that it is a diversion. If you wish to criticize me, do so on my own merits or demerits, separate and apart from the activities of the Duggan family.
    Last edited by dking; 02-10-2012 at 04:38 PM.

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    Paul's so desperate for attention.

    Loving this!

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    Dennis you know as well as I do that the investigations into Duggan's death produced nothing but further pain for Erica. She can't accept her son killed himself hence the need for psychiatric help.

    You've fed her all manner of diseased food dking. We know this. You wanted to use her dead son to further your decades long hatred of LaRouche.

    You would say anything to "get LaRouche" dking. It is a life long obsession.

    Picking through trash cans. Using the dead. My God Dennis what has happened to you?

    I might not agree with poe on some things (nothing important but that is how truly mentally free people interact dking) but when poe characterized you as a "rat" I am forced to agree.

    You can support Israel's planned attack on Iran. I don't. I would love to visit Tehran and other Iranian cities as a tourist. After the British-led coup of 1953 of course Iranians are justified in hating the British Empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friend View Post
    Dennis you know as well as I do that the investigations into Duggan's death produced nothing but further pain for Erica. She can't accept her son killed himself hence the need for psychiatric help.
    Yet's get this straight: the investigations caused Erica pain? What about your organization causing the death of her son--that did not cause pain? And we are supposed to believe that you have the slightest concern for her welfare after you've mocked her so many times, and mocked her son, lying about him, first under the name "Ace" and now as "Friend"?

    You've fed her all manner of diseased food dking. We know this. You wanted to use her dead son to further your decades long hatred of LaRouche.
    "Diseased food"? What historic totalitarian movement was obsessed with the political use of biological metaphors? And I wonder if you recall the page of LaRouche's The Case of [the Jew] Walter Lippmann in which your Dear Leader called Jewish refugees from Hitler who came to the U.S. a cholera plague and "intellectual pus"? Or the article about the Rothschilds and fleas? Or the little "pun" on a LaRouche webpage calling Jeremiah "Jermiah"?

    You would say anything to "get LaRouche" dking. It is a life long obsession.
    You have been unable to answer any of the various charges leveled against your leader and your movement by myself, by Chip Berlet, by Erica Duggan--and by scores of ex-LaRouchians on this discussion board and elsewhere. You don't even try to answer the charges. You just assume that I and others would "say anything," and then you conveniently change the subject.

    Picking through trash cans. Using the dead. My God Dennis what has happened to you?

    I might not agree with poe on some things (nothing important but that is how truly mentally free people interact dking) but when poe characterized you as a "rat" I am forced to agree.
    Poe's LaRouchism without LaRouche is dealt with in my last posting above. He can call me a rat all he likes. I'm well aware that "don't be a rat" was the phrase that was used to keep former leftists in the LaRouche organization quiet about the swindling of millions of dollars from senior citizens. The subtext here is: don't be the "rat" that Dennis King wants you to be--don't rat out Jeff Steinberg and the Security Staff hoods over their dealings with death-squad regimes in Latin America and elsewhere. If Poe thinks that is ratting, then Poe is still spiritually a follower of the LaRouche ideology even if he complains about LaRouche's cultism.

    You can support Israel's planned attack on Iran. I don't. I would love to visit Tehran and other Iranian cities as a tourist. After the British-led coup of 1953 of course Iranians are justified in hating the British Empire.
    Do you support Ahmadinejad's statement that Iran's nuclear weapons will be used to extreminate Israel? Did you support the Iranian government's Holocaust denial conference featuring David Duke? Do you support the repression of the Iranian people by a medieval regime that most Iranians wish to get rid of? Do you support the human rights abuse in Iranian prisons? If you want to rant about Israel, maybe you should answer those questions first. But you won't--this is all just the same old change-the-subject tactics you've been using under your various user names. Trying to turn this forum from one focussed on LaRouche into one that focuses on the Jews and Israel.

    But keep it up, Not-friend. With remarks such as the above (and your "rolling on the floor laughing" about how death squads in Central America slit open the bellies of pregnant women), you are providing abundant evidence for a textbook study of ideological sadism on the web.
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    You wanted to use her dead son to further your decades long hatred of LaRouche.

    You would say anything to "get LaRouche" dking. It is a life long obsession.
    "Friend," why does Dennis King "hate" LaRouche? Give a reason for it. Is it a conspiracy? Is he an agent of the British Empire? Did LaRouche saying that the Rockefellers were evil fascists and that only a worldwide communist revolution led by LaRouche himself in the 70's cause King to lash out against (a bastardized version of) dialectical materialism as espoused by LaRouche at that time?

    I've never heard a reason as to why King is apparently up in arms about LaRouche by an actual LaRouchite.

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    Kell I think EIR has written about Dennis King's reasons for slandering LaRouche and Ken Kronberg. You like to look at old issues of EIR so why not search their archives and post what you find. I'd be interested in reading it myself. I do believe there was a story about a year ago naming many of the until then hidden FACTnet players but I'd be more interested in the EIRs from the 1980s and 1990s with references on King. I doubt there is a lot given King is a small player in a larger picture but there has to be tidbits here and there.

    My opinion is that I think King became obsessed with LaRouche after being hired to slander him.

    This Duggan thing is a low even for King. I mean no police department on Earth thinks there is anything to this murder story. The Germans said that Erica Duggan needed a psychiatrist (I think Anton Chaitkin also said it or maybe Jeff Steinberg). There is a video of a German official on YouTube rolling his eyes over yet another look at the suicide. King has used Duggan to smear the LC.

    King attacked Ken Kronberg's life work but when Ken jumped all of a sudden King acts like he was Ken's best friend. It is sort of creepy if you ask me.

    Of course, this is all my opinion and I am a nobody - just a friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friend View Post
    This Duggan thing is a low even for King. I mean no police department on Earth thinks there is anything to this murder story.
    No police department on Earth? Most police departments have never heard of this case. And only two police entities have weighed in with such a judgement: The police in Wiesbaden (where the local Office of Constitutional Protection was Nazi-infiltrated and where the LaRouchians were longtime snitches against leftists and Greens) and the BKA, also Wiesbaden-based, which used the LaRouchian printing company as a vendor. And the BKA merely repeated what it had heard from the local cops.

    Not-friend, you may love all things German from Schiller through Lyn's heroic Wehrmacht, but I wouldn't trust any German police outfit to properly investigate the death of a Jew. Although the majority of ordinary Germans are probably anti-hate, the police agencies in today's Germany were founded by former SS and other former Nazis, with all that implies for recruitment patterns down through the years.

    If Jeremiah's death had occurred in New York City, the procedure would have been to investigate thoroughly, not take the LaRouchians' lies at face value and make an instant judgement of suicide, and certainly not destroy the most important forensic evidence, the clothing. Indeed, if Jeremiah's death would have occurred in New York the cops would have questioned all those who were around Jeremiah in his last hours, would have crosschecked the lies about him being a drug addict and mental patient, would have checked the phone records of his call to his mother, would have threatened Ortrun Kramer and Elisabeth Hellenbroich (and Helga Zepp) with obstruction of justice charges if they didn't stop playing games, would have used luminol to check the EIR offices for blood, and would have had a thorough autopsy performed by a first-rate forensic pathologist.

    The Germans said that Erica Duggan needed a psychiatrist (I think Anton Chaitkin also said it or maybe Jeff Steinberg).
    The "Germans" said?? Which Germans are you talking about? You phrase it as if it were the German authorities or even the German government. Or do you mean Germans in general? Please tell us WHICH Germans said this, and give their names and titles. If you cannot, then your statement is without value. As to Anton Chaitkin or Jeffrey Steinberg saying it, please tell if either of them is a psychiatrist or clinical psychologist, and if they have ever met and conducted a clinical examination of Erica Duggan. Oh, and if a "German" said she needed a psychiatrist, please tell us if that German is a psychiatrist or clinical psychologist and ever met and conducted a clinical examination of Erica Duggan.

    There is a video of a German official on YouTube rolling his eyes over yet another look at the suicide.
    What video? What German official? Did he really roll his eyes? (Prove it; provide us with a link to the video.) What did he say? Was it prosecutor Hartmut Ferse, former head of the Hesse Office of Constitution Protection in Wiesbaden? Has he ever been questioned about the neo-Nazi infiltration of his staff? Of his relationship with--and whether he used as informants--the LaRouche private intelligence operation headquartered in Wiesbaden? Of if he had any personal relationship with retired BfV chief Heribert Hellenbroich or with Hellenbroich's private security firm?

    Assuming the eye rolling occurred, if the person who did it represented the Wiesbaden police or prosecutors office, then you are merely saying what the Duggans already acknowledge: that the German authorities are obdurately refusing to take a second look at the initial determination of "suicide" even though a British coroner's court has determined it was NOT a suicide. In other words, the eye-rolling would be closed-loop evidence and without value. And please tell me when, in a court of law, eye-rolling is regarded as valid testimony.

    King has used Duggan to smear the LC.
    Seems to me that Not-friend has used Factnet to smear Duggan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by friend View Post
    Kell I think EIR has written about Dennis King's reasons for slandering LaRouche and Ken Kronberg. You like to look at old issues of EIR so why not search their archives and post what you find. I'd be interested in reading it myself. I do believe there was a story about a year ago naming many of the until then hidden FACTnet players but I'd be more interested in the EIRs from the 1980s and 1990s with references on King. I doubt there is a lot given King is a small player in a larger picture but there has to be tidbits here and there.
    Sure thing "Friend." Unfortunately I winded up finding an accusation a fair bit more extreme than, say, Dennis King being Agent 007.

    EIR Vol. 16, No. 27, June 30, 1989, p. 63:
    Dennis King
    critic murdered

    by Investigative Leads Staff

    Bruce Bailey, 54 years old, the president of the Columbia Tenants Union in New York City, and a longtime arch-enemy of dope lobbyist Dennis King, was found murdered in the Hunts Point section of the Bronx on June 15. Bailey's body was discovered stuffed into four black plastic bags that had been left in a desolate spot underneath the Bruckner Expressway. His head, feet, and hands were cut off. His head was not found. Police determined his identity from birthmarks and scars on his back and legs....

    King himself was at one time linked to the New York Humanist Society, a New Age movement with ties to the Lucius Trust (formerly Lucifer Press).
    Not included: Bailey claiming in the same article that he was at one point mugged on the orders of Dennis King. Link: http://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/19...c_murdered.pdf

    So "Friend," do you think King has the power to order the murder of others?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellezi View Post
    Sure thing "Friend." Unfortunately I winded up finding an accusation a fair bit more extreme than, say, Dennis King being Agent 007.

    EIR Vol. 16, No. 27, June 30, 1989, p. 63:
    Not included: Bailey claiming in the same article that he was at one point mugged on the orders of Dennis King. Link: http://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/19...c_murdered.pdf
    From the article:
    Indeed, for a brief period in the early 1980s, Bailey had
    assisted investigative reporters for New Solidarity newspaper
    in the preparation of an article exposing King's personal life
    as well as his involvement in petty criminal activities. That
    article was published on Feb. 20, 1984 under the title, "Will
    Dennis King Come Out of the Closet?"
    Now that right there is why I wish that there were New Solidarity archives online.

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    I think one reason they won't put those archives online, outside of having content apparently much meaner and creepier than EIR in terms of various subjects, is because they'd need to go back to the days not only when LaRouche was an avowed communist, but (depending on when New Solidarity emerged) also at a time when he didn't really have a cult. I notice whenever LaRouchites quote LaRouche writings from the early 70's or show photos of New Solidarity issues from that period they tend to quote him or show them in such a way as to downplay or hide his (and the NCLC's) ardently leftist views.

    Then again EIR starts in 1974 and from that year until 1977 it's quite obvious they were (unusual and cultic) commies back then as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellezi View Post
    I think one reason they won't put those archives online, outside of having content apparently much meaner and creepier than EIR in terms of various subjects, is because they'd need to go back to the days not only when LaRouche was an avowed communist, but (depending on when New Solidarity emerged) also at a time when he didn't really have a cult. I notice whenever LaRouchites quote LaRouche writings from the early 70's or show photos of New Solidarity issues from that period they tend to quote him or show them in such a way as to downplay or hide his (and the NCLC's) ardently leftist views.

    Then again EIR starts in 1974 and from that year until 1977 it's quite obvious they were (unusual and cultic) commies back then as well.
    Kellezi, you are right that LaRouche doesn't want to put up the stuff from the early LC days because it would clash with his later message and undermine his current claims to be a great American patriot or whatever.

    But there's another reason--the almost openly Nazi stuff that LaRouche and his top followers and Security hoods churned out in the late 1970s: heroic Wehrmacht, Hitler wouldn't let them wipe out the Brits at Dunkirk which they should have done anyway, the U.S. should launch atomic-bacteriological-chemical attacks to turn entire countries into parking lots, threats to exterminate Israel with an H-bomb (we can thank David P. Goldman and Uwe Henke "Von Parpart" for that one), only one and a half million killed in the Holocaust (and none of them in gas chambers), London should be nuked, references to the "British (Rothschilds)" (yes, LaRouche said it), allegations about a "British" doctors plot against "Ivan the Terrible" (i.e., Stalin's infamous Jewish doctor's plot canard), surgical strikes against environmentalists, purge the "Zionist lobby," eliminate the "Zionist-British organism," the Jews are traitors and sell narcotics to black children, the Jews killed Lincoln and JKF, Jewish surnames all over the place front and center, JewsJewsJewsJews. And remember the article about Timur the Great (the guy who made huge piles of skulls out of entire cities' populations)? He was depicted as a hero, a great precursor to Lyn.

    In the 1980s, it wasn't any better although they got more artful with the code language (shylock, Venetian, Anglo-Dutch--and don't try to make fun of this: LaRouche himself discussed how to use code language and LYM members today are talking about the "code words" of the enemy). Remember the stuff about how Liz Holtzman and the Justice Department's Nazi hunting OSI should be prosecuted for treason? The claim that the OSI spits in the face of God? That Arthur Rudolph was a great patriotic American? And the editorial about the suicide of Jewish writer Arthur Koestler and how the rest of the world's anti-social elements should be done away with too?

    And LaRouche has continued this stuff down to the present day, the same theory of the LC versus the Venetian/Anglo-Dutch/British oligarchy, with the latter being represented by names like George Soros, Rothschild, or the Goldsmiths, cousins of the Rothshilds. While the planes were hitting the Twin Towers on 9/11, LaRouche was on a far-right talk radio program and instantly began claiming that it was a plot by the Goldsmith brothers.

    As to Poe, he shows no indication that he disagrees with such propaganda, even today. Did he help write it in the Security Staff office? Or help devise the line at NEC meetings? Does he still think the ideology of LaRouchism was and is all sweetness and light, and that anyone like Dennis King who challenges that view is a "rat"?

    Call me whatever you like, Poe. I'm PROUD to have helped foil your organization's attempts to infiltrate the Reagan administration. And I was proud to help squelch LaRouche's evil conspiracy to steal the life savings of senior citizens across America. I will be even prouder to help win justice for Jeremiah Duggan's family--and that justice is coming.
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    From the comments section of Alex Jones' http://infowars.com The wonderful dregs of human ignorance respond to Larouche's manic obsession to TALK ENDLESSLY

    38 Responses to “Nuclear Armageddon if WWIII Starts: Lyndon LaRouche Reports”


    • wayout says:
      February 11, 2012 at 2:34 pm
      i concur with most of what la-rouche says. the uk owns money through the banks and has a very evil “royal” family, that has a blatent! thirst for war and conquest, and blood.
      i also agree barry .s should be jailed, and so should all the other KNOWN! tyrannts and govn’t pyscos!
      very simple really- the answer usually is a simple one. jail KNOWN pysocs and killers and child abusers.
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    • bobx says:
      February 11, 2012 at 2:07 pm
      Funky
      this larouche dude starts answering a question, and then he backtracks 5 levels into some cause that may or maynot seem related to the current issue. He didn’t even answer the question about how the war was gonna start, even though he said “no, it will happen this way ….”, and then changed subject.
      I bet he knows his history, however, I think he’s mistaking the “british empire” with “the bank of england”, which is neither british nor english (just like the federal reserve, which is neither federal nor american, nor a reserve). It’s owned by some scammers out of Bordeaux, hiding in their chateaux, and think they are royals, whereas in fact are a bunch of khazarian inbreds.
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    • OnionJuice says:
      February 11, 2012 at 1:52 pm
      People are crying for solutions and some are claiming to offer solutions, but the only solution is spirituality, full stop. We are entering a time of RABBANI, a time of CUn Fi a Cun – Say to something Be and It Is. This is true spirituality.
      So solutions . . . .
      One needs to know how to raise REAL human beings in order to produce real soultions and real human beings.
      One real human being is capable of kicking the Earth out of it’s orbit.
      People think they are weak and thus they are easily manipultaed – CONTROLED.
      Until such time people grab hold of real teaching from authorized teachers who can raise REAL human beings, nothing will change.
      Becoming a REAL HUMAN BEING is not easy.
      THE SOLUTION is to find a real teacher who can raise you to the level of Cun Fi a Cun – when you can say to something BE and IT IS.
      You have amazing power and resolve, you must work for it.
      PEACE
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    • Fred Dawes says:
      February 11, 2012 at 1:41 pm
      When I was a kid i ask my Teacher about Lyndon LaRo she said, “he is a Nazi”, so i asked my father he said he is a real American fighting for this country, My Father was right! Its is a sad fact he sould have been President in 1964. God help us all!
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    • Faidin says:
      February 11, 2012 at 12:57 pm
      This world is going to Hell sooner than later – people have given up trying to fight against the satanic influences that coerce us into harming one another, and ourselves, even when we ‘know’ we should not.
      Historically, those nations that have turned their back on God suffered terribly … we are witnessing a world turning its back on God now, and I fear for my children!
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    • CTR says:
      February 11, 2012 at 12:40 pm
      LaRouche failed to answer a question from Jones about how the Middle East conflict would start war with China. He gave an answer to a question that the male caller was not allowed to ask. His answer to the lady concerning different means to arrest traitors was to hope the foxes would arrest foxes. He says the American people must be “willing” – which American people should be willing to do what?
      All in all, LaRouche sounded just like any other politician.
      You fanatic Christians and Atheists sound like anti-Siamese twins – both preaching loud and hard in nearly total ignorance.
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    • Ross3745 says:
      February 11, 2012 at 11:46 am
      The Religious fundamentalist Rapture cult ALL WANT WW3..and they have infiltrated our government.
      These people are the human cancers of the planet! They need to be banished from society like the devil worshipers (evangelicals) they are.
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    • fuzzy696 says:
      February 11, 2012 at 11:38 am
      Here we go again …..show me the garden of eden came before the dinosaurs and I,ll read your bible.
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      • Boiling Frog says:
        February 11, 2012 at 12:14 pm
        Your foolish if you think man was not here when dinosaurs were. Utah a case of scientist going out and destroying fossil records of men and dino prints together side by side in rock formation. Chili/Peru thousands of rocks with art upon them thousands of years old showing exactly what each species of dinosaur looked like. Unable to do that if they had not actually seen them. Cave drawing with colors of the skins of different dinosaurs that is what the museums have found as a detailed record to animate actual dino colors now days.
        You need to read a free book online called Dead Mens Secrets by Jonathan Gray. He gives actual details about so many hidden discoveries that they will not release to the public. More and more science and Archeology is backing the truth of the Bible.
        Research before you make such in ignorant statement.
        Lack of investigation is the height of ignorance. Albert Einstein.
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        • 321 says:
          February 11, 2012 at 1:22 pm
          the bible has scientific inaccuracies so science isn’t rlly backing up the bible. but i suppose thats b/c the bible has been tampered with. either way it no longer is the true word of God. read the book called “The Bible, The Qur’an and Science” by Maurice Bucaille
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    • douchbag from philly says:
      February 11, 2012 at 11:18 am
      pouplation controll, nuclear war will fullfill the population controll idea of the rich people. then their wont be any poor people working for those rich people to make them rich
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    • Book the Crooks says:
      February 11, 2012 at 10:32 am
      As usual, if one goes to youtube to see this presentation, one would find only 304 views. Always 301, or 302 or something very close to this number of views with infowars related news presentations on youtube. TOTAL BULL$HIT!
      Ron Paul in 2012!
      Semper Fi!
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    • Hoss says:
      February 11, 2012 at 10:27 am
      I agree with Larouche on the globalists agenda and plan… also that the globalists must act before the election.
      Lyndon LaRouche knows that our congress will not impeach Obama… so you have to read between the lines. He also knows that the Federal Reserve is the real problem behind Glas-Sigel… so you have to read between the lines. AJ and He are limited in what they can say.
      Most people do not understand who the real enemies and powers are… How can we educate the sheep after 3 decades of the globalists dumbing them down with their lies. They turn us one against the other, kill our sons, finance both sides and then reassemble the pieces into their own agenda.
      The bible calls WWW3 the battle of Gog and Megog… 1/3 of mankind will die in this war that sets up the false peace and the World Government. Whether you believe or not…its fixin to happy. I reccommend a trip to your local gunshop and survivialblog.com.
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      • FIREBUG says:
        February 11, 2012 at 12:09 pm
        @ Hoss: ARE YOU STILL SLEEP CAN’T YOU TELL JET WHEN A ZIONIST CHILL GIVES ITS OPPINION, LYNDON LAROUCHE IS A ZIONIST THAT BELIVES ISRAEL FIRST THEN THE REST OF THE WORLD, I NEVER HEAR THIS ZIONIST ASS BLAMING ISRAEL’S LEADERSHIP FOR ALL THE HUMAN DESTRUCTION, THAT THOSE BASTARDS ARE CREATING AND HAVE CREATED BEFORE THERE WAS A STATE OF ISRAEL, CREEPS LIKE THIS CONTINUE WITH THEIR HALF TRUTHS HALF LIES WHICH MAKES THEM NOTHING MORE THAN CHILL INSTRUMENTS PAYED BY AIPAC TO CONTINUE WITH THEIR INDOCTRINATION OF THE IDIOTS, I DON’T BELIVE EVERY THING JONES HAS TO SAY NOR ALL THE GUEST HE INVITES, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED HIM AS A SOURCE TO WAKE TRUE PATRIOTS AS TO WHAT ZIONIST ARE DOING BUSH SAID IT VERY CLEARLY ARE YOU WITH US OR ARE YOU AGAINST US PERIOD, AND ISRAEL IS NOT WITH ENYBODY THEY WANT TO BE THE HEAD OF THE WORLD AND A CRIMINAL HEAD WOULD DESTROY THE WHOLE BODY JUST AS SIMPLE AS THAT AMERICA WAS A WHOLSOM HEAD WHEN IT WAS UNDER GODS GUIDANCE BUT ONCE IT DECIDED TO FOLLO ISRAEL INSTEAD OF TELLING ISRAEL WHAT TO DO WE BECAME PART TAKERS OF THEIR CRIMES AND GOD WILL NOT FORGIVE A NATION THAT TURNS AWAY FROM HIM ISRAEL IS NOT GOD NOR THE PEOPLE LIVING IN ISRAEL ARE GODS PEOPLE, THEY STOP BEEN GODS PEOPLE OVER 2500 YRS AGO WHEN ARE THE CHRISTIANS GOING TO UNDERSTAND THAT. THE CHOSEN PEOPLE ARE THE CHRISTIANS THAT IS WHY GOD BLESSED AMERICA NOT BECAUSE OF THE JEWS, INSTEAD OF THAT IS WHY WE ARE GOING DOWN BECAUSE WE CHOSE ISRAEL OVER OUR LIVING GOD, AND ALL THESE IGNORANT ATHEIST WHICH LARGEST % ARE ZIONIST JEWS, I DON’T PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR CRAP I KNOW THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTINUE WITH THE DECEPTION, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN MORE THAN 6 OR 7 MILLION JEWS IN ANY COUNTRY AT ANY GIVEN TIME, AND GERMANY NEVER HAD MORE THAN POSIBLEY 500,000 SO HOW CAN ANY BODY KILL 6’000,000 MILLION OF THEM AT ANY GIVEN TIME AMERICA IS THE ONLY COUNTRY WHER MOST OF THIS PARASITE LEACH HAS MADE ITS NEST AT AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF GODS BLESSINGS, THE FLYS ALWAYS GO TO WHERE THE FOOD IS UNTILL THEY EAT IT ALL OR DESTROY IT.
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        • Hoss says:
          February 11, 2012 at 1:36 pm
          Firebug, you are preaching replacement thelogy wherein the role of Israel is replaced with the role of the church… that is… you take the actual bible prophecies for Israel and try to apply them to the church. The Bble doesn’t work or make sense that way… the Bble is very clear about what is going to happen… Israel and the revived Roman Empire (EU 2009) are major propethic fulfillments.
          The Illuninati was formed out of the Rothchilds (Red Shield) in the 1700′s. Long before 1948, when Israel which was reestablished as a nation according to the prochecies. The Rothchilds were a jewish family and many members of the Illuninati are Jewish… but the Rothchilds hooked up with the Bank of England and eventually with the American elites (Morgans, Cornegei, Rockefellers, etc).
          The hands of the Jews are not clean… but it is an oversimplication to blame just them for everything. Besides, God deals harshly with the Jews in the upcoming events. Do you really believe that the Jews are the only evil greedy power-hungry people out there?
          Take your boy Bush for example… Both Bush and Kerry were Skulls and Bones. We would have ended up with the false flag and the Patriot Act regardless of which one won. Jewish – No, Illuninati – Yes.
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    • TheBThing says:
      February 11, 2012 at 10:19 am
      Israel needs to be nuked for Bible Prophecy to be fulfilled in Ez 38-39.
      Ez 38:16 proves God is on the side of the armies(Iran+Libya+Ethiopia+Turkey) that hit Israel who was invaded by Zionists(Magog).
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    • Natas Pals says:
      February 11, 2012 at 10:14 am
      Buttlicker is a repressed homosexual who’s afraid to come out of the closet.Don’t worry Buttlicker;Obama is ignoring humans and siding with the subhumans like yourself so that you won’t have to feel so guilty about loving getting your pooper packed by large hairy men.
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    • Tommylove2007 says:
      February 11, 2012 at 10:13 am
      We are not going to achieve a New World Order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money.
      Arthur Schlesinger Jr., ‘The CFR Journal Foreign Affairs’, August 1975.
      Defend your country! Don’t be a patsy like Gorbachev! Go Argentina! Go Russia! Go China! Down with the NWO and it’s supporters!
      It’s all about the endgame according to Lyndon Larouche, and he’s absolutely right –
      Total enslavement and population control.
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    • TheLastAmerican says:
      February 11, 2012 at 9:42 am
      Seems it might be a good idea to get control of the so-called “non-lethal” weapons. These weapons can be used to control the decisions of Presidents, politicians, judges, anybody. You don’t do what the controller (torturer) has in mind, you get a jolt. Its all deniable.
      Maybe there is a reason these politicians all seem to be making crazy decisions.
      The only proof these weapons exist that I know of is a 60 minutes interview with Bob Woodward sometime in 2008. He spoke about some “system” being used in Iraq. Have not heard much about it since then.
      We need to pull together a team of weapons designers to develop a counter to this chit.
      Until then, enjoy the “control grid.”
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    • Battle Hymn says:
      February 11, 2012 at 9:33 am
      I’m sorry, but LaRouche is a real douche.
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    • nightsong says:
      February 11, 2012 at 9:00 am
      Impeach obama.
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    • BoonieRat says:
      February 11, 2012 at 8:32 am
      A little Armageddon never hurt anyone…..
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    • contempted says:
      February 11, 2012 at 8:15 am
      Why this guy always protects Hilary is beyond me. Hilary turned into a war hawk way back in order to win NY senate seat, no pressure from Obama’s people was needed. The Jews own both of them.
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    • ericnueman says:
      February 11, 2012 at 8:10 am
      Reduced life by a third the bible says!
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    • BootLicker says:
      February 11, 2012 at 7:54 am
      War has always been the fastest way to reduce populations! A global Nuclear/Biological war will be sure to kill off at least 3/4s of the worlds useless feeders and will allow the world to be reborn. Imaging in the world to come the only ones in the New world to be allowed technology will be the global elite. Knowledge as in the garden of Eden will once again be outlawed! All that needs to be done is to target the universities and places of knowledge destroying the accomplishments of man for all time! Only the New World Order will be allowed to have the knowledge and the rest of man will be returned to the animal state they truly are. A world enslaved with out modern conveniences, tracked traced and data-based, Implanted at birth and not allowed to even know how to wright and read!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellezi View Post
    Sure thing "Friend." Unfortunately I winded up finding an accusation a fair bit more extreme than, say, Dennis King being Agent 007.

    EIR Vol. 16, No. 27, June 30, 1989, p. 63:
    Not included: Bailey claiming in the same article that he was at one point mugged on the orders of Dennis King. Link: http://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/19...c_murdered.pdf

    So "Friend," do you think King has the power to order the murder of others?
    Do I think King can order murders? Same as anyone else I guess. Right? I am not sure what you're asking really. I don't doubt King's hatred would incite violence but would he order a murder? How would I know? Ask him. He is here all the time.

    Regarding EIR thanks for those two things. I don't know. I guess you could email EIR but I recall you being afraid to do that earlier so I guess we will have to guess about the answer.

    Thanks for checking and if you find more I'd love to see them.

    On archiving things I believe there used to be a site with the old NS-NF newspapers on them. A lot of content if I remember. My own feeling is the average LC member is way too busy saving the galaxy to scan in the 1000s and 1000s of pages of material. I don't feel it has anything to do with past content. All LaRouche's books are available - I've seen them on eBay selling as collector's items. Why would they care about who reads them? Because of something said in the past? Seems a bit of a stretch for you Kell. You are often times wrong but this is just a wild guess.

    I am endlessly amused at all of this. dking says that he helped stop fundraising but the link Paul was nice enough to share showed 30 million raised in what? Two years? Three? That might not be as much money as Herm has but it is more than I have. I am poor.

    Have a great Saturday. We're painting the guest room and starting on Spring cleaning.

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