LaRouche continued 6

[dking]

I know Peter has had a lot to say but I don't think he has been particularly abusive to anyone. On the other hand, I think that Not-Friend and his predecessors have focused on ad hominem attacks, which strike me as typical of LaRouchies. I got a personal email from Harley Schlanger long ago, which was as insulting as an email can be. I was a perfect stranger to him but abusing me was part of his M.O.

Kheris, I urge you to post the Schlanger email here on Factnet. Schlanger is one of the LaRouche organization's public figures--and one of the worst bullies inside the organization. The public should know his true face. And the parents of LYM members should be made aware of just what kind of monster is indoctrinating their kids.

[dking]

Your word counts for nothing Christine. It is like Peter, who lied about his membership here several times. Or dking who has massive delusions.

No one cares Star Trek woman. Harley is a nice man. You are not a nice woman.

I note that you use her real name rather than the user name that she has chosen for communication on this discussion board. You may think this is a clever intimidation tactic, but I notice how, in your attacks on everyone on this board who uses their real name or whose pseudonym has been revealed, you are still hiding behind the name "Friend." Does this give you a sense of power? I say it's cowardice.

[Kellezi]

Kheris, I urge you to post the Schlanger email here on Factnet. Schlanger is one of the LaRouche organization's public figures--and one of the worst bullies inside the organization. The public should know his true face. And the parents of LYM members should be made aware of just what kind of monster is indoctrinating their kids.

Careful, poe will call you a "rat" again, since posting abusive emails by prominent cult henchmen = evil.

Meanwhile, "friend," why are you so defensive about LaRouche? For someone who isn't a member to his shenanigans you certainly spend a lot of time defending him and his cult, using personal names, and generally acting like a member of the cult. You, like an actual cult member, also have an inflated sense of "proof" which makes proving anything impossible. If someone claims anything bad about LaRouche it can't possibly be true, whoever says it has to be evil in some way.

[kheris]

Kheris, I urge you to post the Schlanger email here on Factnet. Schlanger is one of the LaRouche organization's public figures--and one of the worst bullies inside the organization. The public should know his true face. And the parents of LYM members should be made aware of just what kind of monster is indoctrinating their kids.

I cleaned out those files a long time ago. The email dated back to the 90s. I remember it because he wrote to me personally after I posted an item at my website about LaRouche, which I wasn't the author of. He acted as if I was the author, and then suggested that he thought perhaps I might be an intelligent person but the article proved I wasn't. I emailed him back and suggested he re-read the article and pay attention to the fact that I was not the author.

[xlcr4life]

The cult is so insular that we have to revisit one of the best Sienfeld episodes with the Bubble Boy.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SULQSL4Cd0



This was posted by me a few months ago. You would think that the cult would understand that maybe it is not a nice idea to remind a member whose long time spouse passed away in a whirlwind of cult crazed frenzy posts. But, it is a cult afterall and clueless is thy middle name.



Once again(This is about the 4th time now).

"chator" do you know anyone with cancer to make fun of? Like Paul did with Susan Schlanger. Yes, we remember that. When she was fighting cancer he was here ridiculing her. Shameful.

(This is about the 2nd or 3rd time we get to show how the cult works. Since the cult is often clueless, we should expect several more re postings of this.)

What was really posted after the death of Susan Schlanger in a post dated July 12, 2009 here?



Suzie Schlanger wife of Harley passed away last night. She was suffering from lung cancer which was discovered I believe by accident a few years ago.

There is a lot to say about the two of them, for now, I offer my deepest sympathies to Harley and the family of Suzie. She has two sisters who used to be in the LC and left many years ago. Family is family and I am pretty sure that they are devastated by the loss of their sister. There are many people in the extended family of hers and the loss of her will be felt by all, especially her sisters.

On MSN there is an address for Harley which may be still valid.


Harley Schlanger
work

9100 Southwest Fwy, Ste 241

Houston, TX 77074-1524

(713) 541-2907



No matter how much I despise the cult, I do not wish ill harm to people I know who are still in. A better life? Yes. Suffer? No. In the end, what was taken away is often much more then just physical.

She was married to Harley for a long time and I can only guess, but never come close to what he must be going through now.

Confusion reigns after we read this one more time.

I can't think of anyone who has done more for Israel than LaRouche.

to that we now add.

There is zero anti-Semitism with LaRouche

Surely the cult has spared no expense in time or money to meet with many Jewish leaders to clear this up from the web.



http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...5_0_14689.html

In several countries neo-Nazis (sometimes in alliance with quasifascist or xenophobic right-wing populist allies) became more involved in electoral politics, stressing anti-immigrant and sometimes antisemitic themes. Rather than simply staging street demonstrations, they ran for office, with surprisingly good results in some instances. According to the political scientist Cas Mudde, between 1980 and 1999 over 50 European extreme-right political parties ran candidates in Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom.

This interaction has created a dynamic in which antisemitic ideas and conspiracy theories once circulated almost exclusively by German Nazis and their neo-Nazi offspring entered popular culture, mainstream political debate, and even broadcast television series, especially in Islamic and Arab countries in the Middle East. These even included a revival of the false allegations from The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. These conspiracy allegations moved into more mainstream circles through bridging mechanisms that often mask the original overtly anti-Jewish claims by using coded rhetoric about "secret elites" or "Zionist cabals." The international organization run by Lyndon LaRouche is a major source of such masked antisemitic theories globally. In the U.S. the LaRouchites spread these conspiracy theories in an alliance with aides to Minister Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam. A series of LaRouchite pamphlets calls the neoconservative movement the "Children of Satan," which links Jewish neo-conservatives to the historic rhetoric of the blood libel. In a twisted irony, the pamphlets imply the neoconservatives are the real neo-Nazis.



Another way neo-Nazis launder antisemitic conspiracy theories is through *Holocaust denial, the attempt to "prove" that the Holocaust was a fiction and that the Nazis never used gas chambers to exterminate Jews. The international clearinghouse for this movement is the California-based Institute for Historical Review (IHR), founded in 1979, which held its first conference on "Historical Revisionism" that same year. IHR, publisher of the Journal of Historical Revisionism, was established by Willis Carto, founder of the Liberty Lobby and a figure long associated with organizing and propagandizing projects involving neo-Nazi, pro-Hitler, antisemitic and extreme-right alliances. Carto later lost control of IHR in a lawsuit, but started a new denial publication, the Barnes Review, edited by former IHR staff members. Holocaust denial also persists in France, where a scandal in the late 1970s was caused by the claims of Professor Robert Faurisson. In Britain, author David Irving sued American historian Deborah Lipstadt in the late 1990s for calling him a Holocaust denier. In 2000 Irving lost the case (see *Irving v. Lipstadt), which gained international headlines. Irving had previously appeared at an IHR conference, and Faurisson and other IHR advisors testified along with Irving on behalf of Canadian Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel...

Why can't the cult just buy lunch for the Jewish people on that web site and just explain that Larouche has done more for Israel than anyone else? Why wouldn't the Jewish Virtual Library along with many other Jewish orgs just acknowledge Larouche as their Savior as the cult does? Wouldn't these Jewish orgs be extremely grateful and thank Larouche for his declaration that Obama has built gas chambers in the USA and millions will be led to them????



No wonder I left the Bizarro World. I couldn't come up with a great idea like this when I was in.



Larouche is right 2012!





-Curler Marie France Larouche has finally lost and thus ends the ton of coverage of the Larouche name in the search engines. Boxing trainer Stephan Larouche sometimes fills in the slack.



-Our latest triumph of Larouche's will is this mention.



http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/20...-failed-state/

Everything in the world is irretrievably broken!

1. An Illinois nazi is running for Congress as a Republican. He thinks that Obama is an “illegal alien”, and that the Holocaust is “the blackest lie in history“, and that it “never happened.” Congratulations, Illinois Republicans! (To be fair, insane cultist Lyndon LaRouche perennially appears on ballots as a Democrat).

I usually end Friday by hoping everyone has a great weekend. This may be our last time together as March 4th according to LAROUCHEYouth is when the missiles fly after the Russian Elections. It will be a Holocaust according to the cult.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haAWS...feature=relmfu



xlcr4life@hotmail.com

[friend]

This is truly amazing. We have a woman who has been accused of stalking a movie star claiming to have been "bullied" by someone. When asked to produce the email she punts. Again, this is no proof of anything except the ravings of a madwoman with admitted genocidal beliefs on the environment.

I have to laugh but it isn't funny to see someone slide into a mental hell like this. I will pray for Christine.

Kellezi you are aware that me saying "LaRouche has done more for Israel than any other living person" doesn't constitute proof. Many scoffed at the idea. Realize that when someone here says they have "proof" Jerry Duggan was murdered when all official investigative agencies ruled it was a suicide is nothing more than a hate campaign against LaRouche. If anything, the LaRouche organization tried to help poor Jerry.

Kellezi we do have some admitted proof of foul play here. Peter admitted he contacted Erica to spread wild tales of conspiracies to her. He also admitted having several sock accounts here to trick everyone, including you. This constitutes proof.

Kellezi you are an anonymous poster on a message forum. Nothing you say constitutes proof of anything. You can say LaRouche leads a cult but have no proof of that. It is the same old slander against LaRouche that has been used 1000 times before. We know the players here. We know the animus. We have proof of that don't we? It has been published. Do you see anyone filing court proceedings against that published proof? No.

That is your tip for today Molly.

Have a great weekend everyone! If the world ends we tried to save you. God will sort it all out.

[Peter_Tennenbaum]

Slowly the sun sets


The sun sets.


The morning sun, without which no one can long endure this world's misery, rose in all its cosmic glory upon a scene more terrible than even a harden man could bare. Left, right, forward, backward, everywhere ruin and pain.

Stanley Tennenbaum (copyright 2006 Tennenbaum's Nachlass)

[Kellezi]

Notice how "friend" doesn't answer my question. I'll quote it.

Meanwhile, "friend," why are you so defensive about LaRouche? For someone who isn't a member to his shenanigans you certainly spend a lot of time defending him and his cult, using personal names, and generally acting like a member of the cult. You, like an actual cult member, also have an inflated sense of "proof" which makes proving anything impossible. If someone claims anything bad about LaRouche it can't possibly be true, whoever says it has to be evil in some way.

If you aren't an actual member then why are you here for months now if it's such a pathetic corner of the internet?

[borisbad]

Notice how "friend" doesn't answer my question. I'll quote it.
If you aren't an actual member then why are you here for months now if it's such a pathetic corner of the internet?

Don't you understand he is very lonely. When I was in the organization there were many people who were so socially inept that they weren't even allowed to be on public deployments because they would immediately turn people off (kind of like the modern day LYMers do with their idiotic signs). In the old days at least there were some attempts at humor, puerile as it was. Maybe Friend is one of those people who could not cut it on field deployments where he would have to interact with live human beings.

[Ciampion]

Back in America. Don't worry, Friend. They lost my bag but at least I'm home safe, right? And they let me back in the country! Even though I'm a traitor because I think that maybe Obama isn't a Nazi.

After some time away in the UK and France, here's my impressions from briefly catching up with the LPAC Apocalypse-Watch 2012 Master Class Theater Troupe

With the threat of thermonuclear holocaust upon us, LPAC-TV still takes Sundays off.

And with all the appeals for cash appearing lately, it makes me think the org may be on the decline.

There is another "world mobilization." Many "on the ground" reports from different locales, where LPAC members (some high ranking Basement dudes as well) can be seen handing out leaflets at train stations, post offices, and one from Bill Roberts on the side of a major intersection in Michigan, where you would go if you wanted to sell water in the summer-time, or otherwise solicit money for a "political organizations" out of people's car windows as they drive by. http://larouchepac.com/node/21843

Even high school car wash fundraisers will at least pick a spot where people can pull over and deal with them. Hilarious.

These people are ridiculous.

William Roberts is on the ballot now in Michigan, apparently. Progress, indeed. How many people who drove by him where made aware of that, I wonder?

Picture it, you're John Q. Public driving along, maybe in traffic, maybe with a loved one by your side. You come to that intersection, you have a green light, you open a window to throw your Big Gulp out, the cup hits someone who yells "Bill Roberts for Congress!" Your loved says, "What did he say?" You both shrug and go on your way. Picture the same scenario if you get stuck at the red light. Someone comes up to your window. It's raining. You don't want to open the window. He's saying something. You can't quite make it out. You see someone else with an Obama/Hitler poster. Your loved one says, "What the heck?" The light turns green. You both shrug and go on your way.

FRIEND, is this why you give them your money? You could do that job yourself! Just stand there. For FREE!!!

Oh, and while I was in Frahnce, I asked 20 random Frahnch people if they knew who Jaques Cheminade was, or that he was running for President of Frahnce. I asked them IN FRAHNCH!! They all said no to both. Since I am not bound by Euclidean mathematical methodologies, I can declare with utter confidence that NO ONE IN FRAHNCE KNOWS WHO JAQUES CHEMINADE IS!!!!!

Thank you, Happy Sunday. Good to be back.

[borisbad]

Back in America. Don't worry, Friend. They lost my bag but at least I'm home safe, right? And they let me back in the country! Even though I'm a traitor because I think that maybe Obama isn't a Nazi.

After some time away in the UK and France, here's my impressions from briefly catching up with the LPAC Apocalypse-Watch 2012 Master Class Theater Troupe

With the threat of thermonuclear holocaust upon us, LPAC-TV still takes Sundays off.

And with all the appeals for cash appearing lately, it makes me think the org may be on the decline.

There is another "world mobilization." Many "on the ground" reports from different locales, where LPAC members (some high ranking Basement dudes as well) can be seen handing out leaflets at train stations, post offices, and one from Bill Roberts on the side of a major intersection in Michigan, where you would go if you wanted to sell water in the summer-time, or otherwise solicit money for a "political organizations" out of people's car windows as they drive by. http://larouchepac.com/node/21843

Even high school car wash fundraisers will at least pick a spot where people can pull over and deal with them. Hilarious.

These people are ridiculous.

William Roberts is on the ballot now in Michigan, apparently. Progress, indeed. How many people who drove by him where made aware of that, I wonder?

Picture it, you're John Q. Public driving along, maybe in traffic, maybe with a loved one by your side. You come to that intersection, you have a green light, you open a window to throw your Big Gulp out, the cup hits someone who yells "Bill Roberts for Congress!" Your loved says, "What did he say?" You both shrug and go on your way. Picture the same scenario if you get stuck at the red light. Someone comes up to your window. It's raining. You don't want to open the window. He's saying something. You can't quite make it out. You see someone else with an Obama/Hitler poster. Your loved one says, "What the heck?" The light turns green. You both shrug and go on your way.

FRIEND, is this why you give them your money? You could do that job yourself! Just stand there. For FREE!!!

Oh, and while I was in Frahnce, I asked 20 random Frahnch people if they knew who Jaques Cheminade was, or that he was running for President of Frahnce. I asked them IN FRAHNCH!! They all said no to both. Since I am not bound by Euclidean mathematical methodologies, I can declare with utter confidence that NO ONE IN FRAHNCE KNOWS WHO JAQUES CHEMINADE IS!!!!!

Thank you, Happy Sunday. Good to be back.

Campion how dare you spell Jacques as Jaques. You know that is a deliberate slur of an upstanding French "leeder" up there with Charles DeGaulle! But seriously, the difference between high schoolers having a sign out where people can pull over is that people will voluntarily pull their cars over to help, whereas LaRouchians prefer the captive audience, kind of like the squeegee people on street corners in NYC.

[friend]

Someone must know who he is or he would not have attained ballot status to run for the presidency of France. I believe the signatures of 500 mayors are required.

[Peter_Tennenbaum]

http://thirdpartypolitics.us/blog/20...tes-in-france/

"Presidential elections in France commonly have between ten and fifteen candidates on the ballot."

[Ciampion]

Checked Google News for "Lyndon Larouche" and was returned this link:

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/elec...ders_pass.html

The article contains a dreadfully wonderful assessment of Diane Sare's chances of leading a New Presidency from a House of Reps seat for New Jersey:

And I quote:

Bergen County Democratic Chairman Lou Stellato said last week Sare had not registered to run in Bergen County, which is part of the 5th District.
Alexandra Phillips, Sare's campaign manager, said she avoided registering for the Bergen County convention because of "stipulations." Phillips said Thursday if Sare were not endorsed by the Bergen County Democrats, she would be asked to drop out of the race.
Stellato responded that Sare would not be asked to "drop out," only that she would not be included on the party line if she did not get the endorsement. He said she could still participate in the primary.

What happened to victory or death, Diane?!!! "Stipulations" or not, you didn't register! D'oh!!!!! (slaps own forehead) At least you made it to the FEC list of candidates. No financial reports yet though. I'll be back for those....

And......Failure Orgasm Complete

LPAC is the "Bad News Bears" of the United States Political Action Committee Arena. Except that they don't win at the end of the movie. But the crowd still cheers their ineptitude, I guess. I know I do. Keep Failing Guys, and we'll keep laughing.

PEACE AND LOVE, FRIENDS

CIAMPION

[friend]

Aside from noting the usual personal attacks that you make on strangers (it is pretty much all you do but that's okay - I like reading them) from your anonymous perch here (never seen Dennis demand your name), you could have read that story at the following campaign site:

http://dianesare.com/node/67

I am not quite sure what your point is? Does Diane Sare annoy you? Is she "crazy" or something? She gave you an orgasm? Is this your attempt at humor? Like "borisbad" saying the old LC had some puerile humor? (Wonder what "borisbad" did when we was a LC member?) (Nothing because he never was a member.)

LPAC is "failing" and an object of laughter? LOL we all need a good laugh. I think you should send them $50 bucks.

What is with the personal attacks on strangers? Paul does it (even on dead people). Molly does it and she always comes across bitter and hateful. I guess she thinks she's better than everyone else. Dennis always does it - calling everyone Nazis etc. Dennis seems to believe all Germans are Nazis.

I see the Schiller Institute had a conference in Germany. Wonder of anyone died this time? Because, you know, so many have in the past right? Maybe they were chopping up babies with machetes in the back room.

Incidentally the Justice for Jerry site is called that. If you don't want people to call him Jerry why not change the site? See?

<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
	<title>JUSTICEFORJERRY</title>
	<meta name="description" content="" />
	<meta name="keywords" content="Jeremiah Duggan, justice, campaign" />
	<link href="resources/jerry icon.PNG" rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon" />
	<link href="resources/jerry icon.PNG" rel="icon" type="image/x-icon" />
	<style type="text/css">

[fightapathy]

Wasn't it a year or two ago that Larouche was supposed to be leading the masses in revolt? Is this the result of a few million dollars and sending the LYM and LYMettes to stinkbomb?

xlcr4life, this week's edition of World Crisis Radio starring Dr. Webster Griffin Tarpley features a breakdown of why Occupy Wall Street's gone down the tubes: therein, the guest commentator tells Tarpley that it was "LaRouche activists" who infiltrated the Demands Working Group last October. (I can imagine what Tarpley was thinking at the time; he did not venture an opinion on the matter.)

Apparently, LaRouche's people' started off by demanding Glass-Steagal be added to the list of demands.

Shortly thereafter, they began demanding the removal of Obama from office, and it wasn't long before the entire Demands Working Group collapsed, theoretically taking much of OWS with it.

From that programme, one must conclude that LaRouche's dedicated mass strikers are the ones who killed OWS from within, leaving a shattered, hollow shell for the rest of us to gaze upon pitifully.

[friend]

I am certain many organizations tried to control the direction of OWS.

My opinion is if they couldn't take a stand to impeach Obama and restore Glass-Steagall (two Ls by the way) they doomed themselves to failure.

[eaglebeak]

Someone must know who he is or he would not have attained ballot status to run for the presidency of France. I believe the signatures of 500 mayors are required.

That little nugget about the mayors is just the sort of thing any Labor Committee member would know--but not another soul in the U.S., at least (perhaps not in Frahnce, either).

Strange, then, that a dispassionate observer like “Friend” should know it.... He/she must get a ton of "briefings" for all that $$$ he/she sends in.

Another thing along the same lines that strikes me as Too Much Information (not giving it out, but having it):

The same individual who knows that 500 mayors have to sign also had a lot to say recently about the alleged identity of Kheris, not just name but supposed details.

This is not the sort of thing that any Labor Committee supporter is likely to know--in fact, not the sort of thing most Labor Committee members are likely to know.

Why, the last time I heard anyone carry on about these alleged details about Kheris, the person doing the carrying on was Barbara Boyd.

It was the summer of 2007, one of our last get-togethers--perhaps our last one.

Barbara, of course, was up on all this stuff because the "Legal" staff--Babs, Bruce, and a few others--spent an inordinate amount of time studying Factnet and trying to figure out who everyone was and what to do about it.

They had John C "pinging" people to figure out where their IP addresses were based--that's in the days when Factnet showed IP addresses.

This is how Barbara "knew" that XLCR was Chris Curtis.

This is how Babs also "knew" that eaglebeak was based in Reston.

And Kheris? Yes, he/she had been a target of considerable interest, too. I mean, if Harley Schlanger wrote an email, one infers that the LC was worried about Kheris....

And of course Babs thought it was important to tell me all this.

So what I'm wondering is: How did a distant, dispassionate observer, whose only contact with LaRouche is to toss a few thousand his way now and then, have all this alleged info on--or interest in--Kheris? The very same info that Barbara had, but that next to no one outside of “Legal” knew?

[borisbad]

Aside from noting the usual personal attacks that you make on strangers (it is pretty much all you do but that's okay - I like reading them) from your anonymous perch here (never seen Dennis demand your name), you could have read that story at the following campaign site:

http://dianesare.com/node/67

I am not quite sure what your point is? Does Diane Sare annoy you? Is she "crazy" or something? She gave you an orgasm? Is this your attempt at humor? Like "borisbad" saying the old LC had some puerile humor? (Wonder what "borisbad" did when we was a LC member?) (Nothing because he never was a member.)

LPAC is "failing" and an object of laughter? LOL we all need a good laugh. I think you should send them $50 bucks.

What is with the personal attacks on strangers? Paul does it (even on dead people). Molly does it and she always comes across bitter and hateful. I guess she thinks she's better than everyone else. Dennis always does it - calling everyone Nazis etc. Dennis seems to believe all Germans are Nazis.

I see the Schiller Institute had a conference in Germany. Wonder of anyone died this time? Because, you know, so many have in the past right? Maybe they were chopping up babies with machetes in the back room.

Dennis may think that all Germans are Nazis, which is certainly inaccurate, although there were many in Germany who never really came to grips with their participation in the Nazi horror (my paternal grandparents and other family members were among those executed by the Nazis at Auschwitz and elsewhere for being Jewish, some were also socialists but they were part of the 6 million not 1-1/2 million as LaRouche suggests. However, you don't seem to mind Lyn calling Obama worse than the Nazis and any number of other people including the DNC worse than Nazis. To LaRouche everybody was worse than the Nazis but the Nazis themselves and their sympathizers in Germany, Austria, Croatia and elsewhere.

[friend]

Paranoia occurs in many mental disorders. Let us add bitterness and hatred to the mix shall we?

Christine's name was in EIR. I believe you're giving Christine much more importance than she deserves. What possible reason would anyone be concerned about her for? Aside from mentioning her in EIR as who she is? Christine made a few threats about the IRS but she was blowing smoke. Christine was a "target"?? LOL a target of what? Harley wrote her an email? LOL again. In my opinion Christine's pathetic but I am just a friend. One can "infer" whatever one likes.

The fact one needs 500 signatures from mayors in France to run for president is well known. You don't need to be James Bond 007 to know that.

One can "infer" whatever one likes.