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    Default Ed is Ozymandias

    Hello again. I guess I’ll get a little more mileage out of my $2, 10 day subscription. (I suppose I should change my handle to “twotime” now!) I’m glad you got a chuckle out of my first post (in CFC Observations). As long as I feel like posting here, Ed is the focus. He’s pathetic. He’s spent his whole life living off the labors of others. In a way, I could give a rats a**. But after 30 years, when I discover people still under the spell of that doofus, I am inspired to post. Hopefully this will encourage/embolden others to stand up to him (I've done it before and he folded like a cheap lawn chair).

    This may come across as cynical or agnostic sounding, but even when I was with the (then) Christian Fellowship Incorporated, I began to believe that a great number of religious leaders (certainly the “man of God”) couldn’t do anything else in life, so they want to be pastors, leading other, weaker people. Ed couldn’t cut it in the real world. Heck, I think he’d even like to be a “sinner” in the stereotypical sense, (hustling women, drinking, living an “exciting” lifestyle), but he couldn’t even pull that off! (Why do you think he trys to do manly things like ride Harleys? It’s because he has no nads so he tries to fake it. The psychology here is as clear as a bell). He’s a glutton, terrorizing other people, taking advantage of their sincere desire to try to do good and twist that into a revenue stream to support his appetites. What a racket.

    Ed is certainly following the “man of God’s” playbook, and it has apparently worked for a long time. When I read some of the recent posts about Ed’s claim that his group will be the largest (fill in the blank) ministry of its kind in the world, I thought of the poem Ozymandias by Percy Bysshe Shelley.

    In the meantime, Ed is, well, Ed. Telling people they are doomed if the don’t follow his dictates. I wonder why he just doesn’t call his outfit “Eunuchs for Christ!” Gee whiz, I’d want to be a eunuch too if all the females were like Mrs. Ed and Mrs. Pete, but that’s another story.

    The conclusion of the poem Ozymandias reads:

    The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
    And on the pedestal these words appear—
    "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
    Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
    Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
    Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
    The lone and level sands stretch far away.

    That will be the epitaph of CFCMI.

    Wake up and smell the freedom.
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    Default Ozymadias is Right!

    I like your comparison of Ed to Ozymandias. I also see Ed as king of a crumbling 'kingdom'. CFC is a train wreck. Did you read the one about their voluntery 41 percent pay cut? They never took into account the economy of Tidewater. Jobs have always been hard to come by in Hampton Roads.

    How do you explain the Eunichs who stay but laugh at leadership behind their backs? I wonder why they don't leave! I, too, know a lot of bullies who crumble if you get back in their faces.

    Ed is a paper lion. How can they scare others with Hell when you see their track record? Ed is a pudgy little wiener who never learned the Bible. I hate the way they spin everything. The point is, a thinking person can see through all the B.S. Those brainwashed lackeys in CFC are so afraid of the End Times to see the forest for the trees.

    L.R. died in prison, but Ed tries to give his image a makeover. CFC is now onto a new generation of sailors. Oldheads knew the real L.R.

    I doubt anyone can help Ed or Pete. They like where they are. I would like to know how we help those who live wherever Ed and Pete tell them, give free labor and money to CFC, instead of finding full time employment, even if it means relocation. How do we help those who are disenfranchised with CFC from taking that next big step: WALKING OUT!

    If you would like to share more, would you please tell us, why and how you left?

    'Onetime' still fits because you were one time in CFC. Good handle!
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    Man, I'm getting a good laugh out of all this. Plus I'm inspired to pull out the old literature books and blow the dust off....

    Now, I haven't read Shelley in a LONG time...but I perceive Ed more like the little "man behind the curtain" from the Wizard of Oz. (remember, he was exposed by Toto....yup, even a dog figured that guy out.)

    Ed is assinine. Not only is he a textbook example of most "cult leaders" out there (check the DSM if you wanna know more on their standard personality type) he is pathetic, delusional and uses grandiosity to shore up his sagging ego.

    I just get a hoot out of reading his sermons. It's either a jabbering mess of word salad or all about "him". I still can't believe anyone would PAY to listen to that! Oh, well....

    I posted an article I found where Pete likens LR to George Washington.

    I have no idea how these leaders of CFC are able to function with their obvious mental deficits.

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    Default Ozy it is!

    I like how you think bramble. I agree with turningjapanese; the Wizard of Oz is a good likeness. However, I would suggest that Ed more closely resembles the Cowardly Lion (before being slapped by Dorothy). Maybe I’ll call him Ozy!

    You know, there's nothing wrong about being taken advantage of. But there is always that time—that moment of truth—when your eyes are opened and you see things as they really are. It takes much courage at this point to act on the truth you have uncovered. That’s the point in time when you are held accountable.

    [Programming note: The views expressed in this post are those of onetime, and not those of the management, posters, or voyeurs of Factnet.org]

    If one chooses to remain in error after the moment of truth, then he puts his balls in a Mason jar and inwardly assumes the constitution of a wuss. This is a conscious choice. On the outside he does things to try to convince the world that his kahunas are still in their original location. He does stupid things like riding Harleys and he fakes many others out.

    But deep down inside he knows the Mason jar is full. It haunts him. It torments him to know that he’s sold others out in the process. So his exterior is a facade, but he knows he’s a fake. It eats at him. He gains weight. He has headaches.

    You guys obviously passed your own moments of truth. I tip my hat to you and others like you. (Hey bramble: to your request that I talk about why and how I left, let me just say that I had my moment of truth, and acted accordingly. The story has already been told.)

    Ed (or Buddy as his dad used to call him) had his chance. He had his moment of truth. But, unfortunately, Ed was spotting as his monthly cycle was upon him.

    Did you know that Ed and Pete’s real names are Potiphar? That means Mrs. Ed and Mrs. Pete are Potiphar's wives. Reflect on that for a moment. (There is a story there, but my purpose is not to tell it now.)

    So for all of you who see—stand up and be a man. Keep those jars empty! Send Buddy back to Mentor OH. Let him get a real job. It might do him good.

    But forget the balls. 30 plus years in formaldehyde have rendered them useless. Just like him.
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    Default Ozy the Chihuahua

    I was made aware of another forum that focuses on Ozy and his everlasting kingdom (Hampton Roads Citi-Data). There’s a tendency to get off on tangents, but there is good discussion here as well. One fellow in particular had some things to say that I want to quote here to make point or two:
    In time, however, Ed failed to act. He turned a blind eye to me, and many, many others who sought his council and wisdom. He simply had nothing to offer us while his ungodly father in law ran the organization and chased Ed and Pete around like whipped puppies at his own mercy. They were no shepherds at all….This time was different for some reason. To this day, I still don't know what it was…..Ed burst into my side door. He was mad as a hornet. I stood up in shock and to see how I might be of some service to him….Ed stormed in and stood toe to toe with me and started screaming in my face. He was beat red and furious with anger. He berated me for asking Pastor Paine and Pam if they would like coffee and cake "before" asking him (Ed) if he would like something. Ed was nose to nose with me and screaming at the top of his lungs. His brow was furled and his spit was spraying. He slammed his fist over and over again on my desk. I was sure it would crack. I just could not, for the life of me, figure out what I did wrong. Ed and I were face to face. I was looking desperately in his eyes for some kind of reason for the sheer madness. He even picked up a 50 cal shell - given to me by a brother - and whipped it on the floor. It riccoched up and nearly hit me. It bounced off the ceiling and wall making dents along the way. I broke down in tears continuing to look Ed in the eye. It was all so sureal to me.
    As long as people “break down in tears” Ozy will have the upper hand. He’s counting on that reaction from his flock. It works 99.9% of the time, because 99.9% of the time, sheep bleat. But when it doesn’t work, Ozy is the one that breaks down. Seen it many times. Caused a few myself.

    Hey, inside Ozy is nothing. He’s a sick, cruel joke. He is a walking cliché. He needs to be at the top of his tiny pyramid to justify his wretched existence. Ozy has perpetual PMS.

    Ozy is just like Butch and Mitzi, the Davis family rodents (Chihuahuas) in the 1970s. Now these creatures were dearly loved by the family, especially Mrs. Ed and Mrs. Pete (it figures, doesn’t it?). One time, when I was over at the “man of God’s” house in Waukegan (where only Mrs. “man of God” lived) for some stupid get together, one of those two rodents came over, growled, and then bit me. At the time I was briefly alone sitting in another room. What happened next was almost reflexive on my part (the Dog Whisperer has nothing on me). I reached down, grabbed that little sh*t by the throat, banged his head on the hardwood floor, and then flung him away from me. He didn’t even make a sound because I squeezed the breath out of him, but he staggered over to the corner of the room. Standing there shaking, he pi$$ed on the floor. I smiled.

    That’s Ozy. He barks, he’ll nip at you, but when one uses effective “countermeasures,” he staggers away and pi$$es his pants. Ozy was that kid we knew growing up that always seemed to get the sh*t beat out of him. Now it’s revenge of the twerps.

    A very good model for standing up to Ozy and his ilk took place in 1979.

    This has been fun because Ozy is, well, funny! There’s a serious side to this, of course, but hell, there’s a serious side to life too.

    But that doesn’t mean we can have fun and enjoy the parade!
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    Default Mothers Day in Ozyland

    I read where, at its height, LRay’s empire was over a 1,000 sheep (including a few pesky goats that sow discord, frustrate the ministry and basically screw things up). Now under Ozy’s management, they are down to what, a 100 or so? Way to go Ozy! In another few years you’ll be down to 10 and CFCMI will resemble a nursing home. Maybe you should shift your strategy away from servicemen and start focusing on AARP. Hey, we ain’t getting any younger.

    Some advice. In sales, if you are not selling enough (assuming you have a good product to sell), you are either: 1) not doing your sales presentation correctly, or 2) you are not doing enough sales presentations. Which is it Ozy? Or maybe the brand of product you try to sell just plain sucks. Maybe it’s you Ozy!

    You know, Ozy, you have poor instincts. You really do. I mean, you have the LRay era receding in the rearview mirror—with all of the possibilities of putting that to rest for good—and what do you do? You try to resuscitate his image! Your brainchild? The L.R. Davis Field. Brilliant!!!

    Yes, the L.R. Davis Field—a field that honors a convicted felon of the worst kind, a field bought and paid for by the sacrifice, toil and tears of others—has now become the present day Field of Blood.

    I understand why you think so highly of LRay. He was your spiritual mentor and provided you with the playbook so you could live off others. Sure beats working for a living! Just huff and puff, yell at others, scream and shout (like when they offer coffee to others before they do to you Ozy). Yeah, I understand why you’d want to try to rehabilitate LRay’s image. You long for the good old days. (I can hear LRay singing with Mrs. Pete right now…“Well I lost my reputation, when I turned my back on sin. I’m marked, marked, marked….) Yup, the good ole days. (Yeah.)

    Another, probably bigger, “Mason jar” reason for you to try to revive the “man of God” is the Mothers of Ozyland. The Mason jar is your monument to the women (only three of them matter, the rest are irrelevant to you). That was your Faustian bargain to be at the top of your Tinkertoy pyramid. But there’s a payback. Solomon’s 700 women ruined him, but he had it easy compared to the hell you must go through with these three.

    So you really have no choice, Ozy. The balls are long gone. Mrs. Ozy, who has the intelligence of Forrest Gump without the moxie, wants payback. Mrs. Pete, who’s epitaph will read “I’ve never met a man I didn’t like,” wants payback. Mrs. “man of God”…well, I’m not exactly sure what the hell she wants, other than to prop up the man she never lived with, but she wants payback too!

    Start paying. You’ll be down to 10 quicker than you realize.

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    Hazel: May those flowers you received for Mother's Day be a tribute to all the boys your husband molested. Thank God he is dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onetime View Post
    In another few years you’ll be down to 10 and CFCMI will resemble a nursing home.
    They already resemble a loony bin.

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    Default Honor, Oxen, and Bloated Pastors

    Hey I noticed that the “Largest Jesus-Name Ministry in the World” (so sayeth the Lord!), says that they base what they do on scripture. So far so good. I noted that they particularly like 1 Timothy 5:17: “Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially they who labor in the word and doctrine.”

    Upon some reflection here, Ozy and the gang sure do like the “honor” part of this. In fact, they demand it! (What the hell good is authority if you can’t use it?) I wouldn’t be surprised if they have monthly “Honor thy Pastor” days in Ozyland. Hey, why stop at double honor? Let’s triple or quadruple it! Does Christ forbid it? I think not. Their gullible flock will certainly cooperate fully and buy it hook, line and sinker. They will meekly bleat, “How can I be of more service to you, brother?” And, just to keep them humble, Buddy can chew their a$$es out. After reducing them to tears, getting another year’s commitment to refrain from dating will be a cinch. The crushing burden that they’ll carry knowing that they offended “pastor” Eddie—the “man of God”—will cause them to increase their tithes and offerings (already high) even more. Ah, the joys of power!

    But you know the more that I read, I really think Ozy and the guys got this all bass ackwards. Because it also talks about “elders that rule well.” I hate to say it Ozy, but your track record as a manager does leave much to be desired. (That means “not good,” Mrs. Ozy). Under your pastorship, business has dropped like a rock. What happened to all the sheep? You are good shepherds, correct? You do know what you’re doing, correct?

    Maybe you “elders” haven’t ruled too well? Hmmm?? Just a question, and if that was the only one, I’d shrug it off. But I keep reading…

    “For the Scripture says, You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain, and The laborer is worthy of his wages.” 1 Timothy 5:18.

    Brother Eddie, let me be blunt…it seems to me that you “elders” muzzle your oxen!!?? You have a lot of laborers (well, a hell of a lot less than you used to have, but stay with me here), and don’t you take a heck of a lot of their reward? I mean, a really big chunk? You, in effect, are telling them: “Hey flock, you are not worthy of your wages, because the wages of your miserable lives should be nothing. We are worthy of your wages! But we let you keep some of it out of the goodness of our hearts.”

    Ozy, I’m getting more troubled as dig into this. It’s one thing to muzzle your flock and deny them the reward that they are entitled to. But when I read 2 Thessalonians 3:10, I start to smell a Butch and Mitzi! (Translation for Mrs. Ozy: I smell a rat.) “For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.”

    Psst, psst...hey, Oz…I know yelling and screaming at your flock to keep them in line takes effort and really get’s the blood flowing, but that is not work. Counting your tithe and offering money takes effort, but that is not work. Riding your Harley—which of course is a substitute for the contents of the Mason jar—that is not work. Writing sermons is work, but not the incoherent ramblings that you compose (those, Mrs. Ozy, are called gibberish).

    Ozy, you and your management team, well…you look…bloated. You certainly haven’t missed any meals. In a long time. You are all obviously very well fed.

    Contrary to the scriptures, you take the rewards of others that you are not entitled to. Contrary to the scriptures, you eat when you do not work.

    You state: “Without apology, we seek the blessings of God, and, without compromise, we seek to be a blessing to others.”

    You should state: “Without apology, we seek the rewards of others, and, without compromise, we seek to be a blessing to ourselves.”

    As elders and as shepherds, you stink. You are pathetic.

    Go eat something and ride your Harley.
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    Onetime, your posts have been most entertaining and enlightening. I hope to hear more from you in the future. Godspeed.

    You have pointed out something that most people in CFCMI have overlooked, namely, that we must stand up to bullies. Most of them are small on the inside. Most of them have bad tempers and poor self esteem. Most of them are brats. Once confronted, most will crumble and go hide in the corner and cry their eyes out! Ed is no exception, from what I have read on various boards.

    No doubt Ozymendias' empire continues to crumble around him.


    God Bless!
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    Default What to do now?

    As I said in my first post almost 10 days ago, I stumbled onto this site by accident. I saw something that made me think of the “man of God,” so I did some Googling. About an hour later I said to myself “No f^#cking way! That nutless, yellow-bellied retard is still around?!?! And he’s cloning himself by making grown men cry??!!” Buddy—the klutz that even his dad was ashamed of—moved me to make a post, but Factnet said I had to pay for that privilege. So I shelled out two clams (that’s 2 dollars, Mrs. Ozy) for a 10-day subscription. It was a spur of the moment thing and all I wanted to do was to make one post and forget it. But after I made that post, I thought of other things about that wretched weakling, so I kept posting.

    Well, it’s been a fast (and fun!) 10 days and this subscription has about run out. So what to do now? I’d like to keep poking holes in Ozy and his kingdom, but in a way, it’s about as challenging as being at a carnival and shooting rubber ducks in a barrel. But when I think of putting the pop-gun down and going home, I see a deranged, stupid grinning duck with glasses and a mustache and I feel compelled to give the carnival huckster another two-bits (that’s a quarter Mrs. Ozy) and keep trying to sink the idiot.

    So should I shell out another 16 bits (that’s…ah…never mind Mrs. Ozy) and keep this thread alive? Or should I go back where I came from and disappear? Or go somewhere else?

    Either way I'm a happy camper.

    Thanks!

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    Thanks for dropping in, Onetime. It's been our pleasure.


    As long as there are idiots, there will be hucksters.


    Feel free to stop by again soon. Be well.

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    Default Not quitting yet

    Buddy beware!

    I decided to hang on a while and continue to "onetime" it here (maybe even "twotime" it elsewhere). This is too much fun.

    Special thanks to bramble and TJ for the kind words. You guys are a big reason I’m sticking around. I may not be able to post at the rate I have during the past week (unlike Ozy and his spiritual dwarfs, I have real work to do), but I’ll try to check in periodically.

    Let the good times roll!

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    Default High on the Hog

    This morning, I heard someone use the expression “living high on the hog.” Right away Ozy came to mind. For a moment, I wondered why.

    Then I laughed! Ozy certainly lives high on the hog!

    He eats ‘em, rides ‘em and marries ‘em!

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    Default Buddy and the Jerks

    (Sung to the tune, “Bennie and the Jets”)

    Hey dudes, get yourselves together
    Buddy’s after you
    ‘Cause his bank account’s seen days better
    He'll sell his best friends out tonight

    So stick around
    You'll hear a religious clown
    Pushing bull sh!t p-r-o-f-o-u-n-d...

    Say, Debbie and Pam, have you seen him yet
    But he's so spaced out,
    BuhBuhBuhBuh Buddy and the Jerks

    Oh but he's so weird and so awful
    Oh Buddy he's really mean
    He's got dumb a$$ look and a mustache too
    You know I read it in a magazine
    Ah ha, BuhBuh Buddy and the Jerks

    Buddy, Buddy and the Jerks
    Buddy, Buddy, Buddy, Buddy, Buddy and the Jerks
    Buddy, Buddy, Buddy, Buddy, Buddy, Buddy and the Jerks


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    Default Public Service Post

    In the sprit of public service, this post is to help others more easily find information on this farce of an organization:

    Google Keywords

    Ed Thomas
    Edward Jacob Thomas Jr
    Pete Paine
    L R Davis
    CFCMI
    Christian Fellowship Incorporated
    Porcine Women
    Parasite Pastors
    Evangelize, Educate, Equip Gullible Fools
    Shameless Moneygrubbers

    To Ozy and his pals: This is the Internet age bub. As Lincoln said “You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time.”

    You can’t hide any longer.

    What are you going to do when the gig is over?

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    Default Drug Abuse?

    Do you think that CFCMI pastors or others have a higher incidence of drug abuse than the general population? I know that Ed used to sell heroin and even laced joints with it! He seems unrepenitent from reading his sermons. I wonder how many he got hooked on in during Bible Studies! Does Ed still do drugs?
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    I don't know if he still does drugs.....but from reading his sermons, he should be medicated.

    Possibly euthanized.

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    Default Bad A$$ Ozy

    Quote Originally Posted by bramble View Post
    Do you think that CFCMI pastors or others have a higher incidence of drug abuse than the general population? I know that Ed used to sell heroin and even laced joints with it! He seems unrepenitent from reading his sermons. I wonder how many he got hooked on in during Bible Studies! Does Ed still do drugs?
    "No stems no seeds that you don't need, Acapulco Gold is...[I N H A L E]...bad a$$ weed." – Cheech and Chong

    Here's another example of Ozy's attempt to perpetuate this tough guy image of some big, bad a$$ drug dealer and user. Shoot, are there are no old timers left anymore to challenge that over hyped fish tale of a story?

    Hey bramble, a question. How do you know that Eddie boy used to sell heroin? Are you basing that on what he says, or were you around him in the 1970s? I was.

    I’ll be open and honest—I’ll grant the possibility that Eddie boy might have used some drugs (like millions of other retards) and he might have sold a little on the side (I wasn’t around him that closely). But to the extent he was this big bad a$$ drug dealer, I don’t buy it. If he did any of this stuff at all, he failed miserably at it, like everything else he’s ever attempted.

    To quote myself in an earlier post: Ed couldn’t cut it in the real world. Heck, I think he’d even like to be a “sinner” in the stereotypical sense, (hustling women, drinking, living an “exciting” lifestyle), but he couldn’t even pull that off!”

    Ozy more fits the profile of someone that “experimented,” got sh!t faced, and then wanted to convince everyone else that he was this big bad dude to establish a testosterone-laced "testimonial" (the balls, even by the mid 1970s, were already on their way to the Mason jar).

    This has always been my impression and it’s based upon solid observations and evidence. If I am wrong—if you know something that I don’t—let me know and I’ll stand corrected.

    But regardless of whether I’m corrected or not, he a wuss of the first degree.

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    Default High on the Hog II

    Quote Originally Posted by onetime View Post
    He eats ‘em, rides ‘em and marries ‘em!
    Our “manly man” biker may soon be wearing ‘em as well.

    In an attempt (a feeble one at that) to fit in with other Harley riders, Ozy wants to get a tattoo. Here is one he is reportedly considering:

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JJS1nankc_...20/tattoo3.jpg

    It's Mrs. Ozy! How touching.

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