Re:Arnold Murray

[turtle]

Hilter tattoed a real mark on the prisoners. These marks on any survivor is still visible. The mark could be a physical, but the mark that counts is the invisible. One is marked as believers by the Holy Spirit. Satan can not mark his that way, he have to use ink or chips ro something.

[chad14]

i will be gone in the rapture when the mark of the beast is given

[stage director]

One is marked as believers by the Holy Spirit. Satan can not mark his that way

I dunno, Turtle.. I've met a few who I am sure were marked with an evil spirit.

[turtle]

I agree, however realize the anitchrist needs no mark for his, for with God's mark then the rest are the devil, however the anitchrist can't see the mark of God unless it revealed to him.

[joe]

There is a passage of scripture that I can not pull to memory at the moment,but perhaps one of you know it.
It speaks of some people having the law of God,or something,sealed in their forehead.Now if you remember this scripture,how come His seal is in the mind,but Satan's has to be an outward stamp?

Also,anyone that is against God is AntiChrist.

[turtle]

Revelation 13:15-17 KJV
(15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
(16) And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
(17) And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Revelation 14:9-11 KJV
(9) And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
(10) The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
(11) And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Revelation 15:1-2 KJV
(1) And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
(2) And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

Revelation 16:1-3 KJV
(1) And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
(2) And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
(3) And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

Revelation 19:19-21 KJV
(19) And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
(20) And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
(21) And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Revelation 20:4-5 KJV
(4) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
(5) But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

[chad14]

stage and turtle yes that is correct. satan cant see GODS MARK but GOD can see his

[joe]

stage and turtle yes that is correct. satan cant see GODS MARK but GOD can see his

So Satan don't know if a person is Christian? Come on Chad.

[turtle]

Isaiah 8:16-17 KJV
(16) Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
(17) And I will wait upon the LORD, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him.

John 3:31-35 KJV
(31) He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
(32) And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
(33) He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
(34) For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
(35) The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

2 Timothy 2:18-21 KJV
(18) Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
(19) Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
(20) But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
(21) If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

If God is the only one that can see the inner most part of man can the devil see these parts. Of course not.

Psalms 139:1-24 KJV
(1) To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. O LORD, thou hast searched me, and known me.
(2) Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off.
(3) Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways.
(4) For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O LORD, thou knowest it altogether.
(5) Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me.
(6) Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it.
(7) Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
(8) If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
(9) If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
(10) Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.
(11) If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me.
(12) Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.
(13) For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.
(14) I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
(15) My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
(16) Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
(17) How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!
(18) If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee.
(19) Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
(20) For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
(21) Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
(22) I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
(23) Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
(24) And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

[chad14]

no there are things that satan doesn tknow andwill never know

[joe]

no there are things that satan doesn tknow andwill never know

How long have you been a Christian Chad?

[chad14]

joe long enough to know that you are not and that your really sgng and smyrna