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  1. #61
    laabt (laabt) Guest

    Default when u think God as just love

    when u think God as just love he becomes as some famous christian said God almatey instead of God almighty...andy

  2. #62
    erich (erich) Guest

    Default Good luck, We went through

    Good luck,

    We went through that with them.

    If they won't hear the truth of God's Word from a Christian
    they are not going to hear the truth of God's Word from a Muslim either.

    He brought the deliverance from this current hurricane. He controls the weather.

  3. #63
    david_munson (david_munson) Guest

    Default [b]
    <font color="000000"><font face="arial&#44;helvetica"></font>
    Isa 45:7
    * * * 7. form .*.*. create--yatzar, to give &#34;form&#34; to previously existing matter. Bara, to &#34;create&#34; from nothing the chaotic dark material.
    * * * light .*.*. darkness--literally &#40;Ge 1:1-3&#41;, emblematical also, prosperity to Cyrus, calamity to Babylon and the nations to be vanquished [GROTIUS] .*.*. Isaiah refers also to the Oriental belief in two coexistent, eternal principles, ever struggling with each other, light or good, and darkness or evil, Oromasden and Ahrimanen. God, here, in opposition, asserts His sovereignty over both [VITRINGA].
    * * * create evil--not moral evil &#40;Jas 1:13&#41;, but in contrast to &#34;peace&#34; in the parallel clause, war, disaster &#40;compare Ps 65:7; Am 3:6&#41;.

    Contextual referance to evil in Isaiah 45:7

    Dave</font>
    }


  4. #64
    msmithluvnlife (msmithluvnlife) Guest

    Default With all due respect to peace-

    With all due respect to peace-loving adherants of Islam; how can one claim that the Islamic Prophet is a prophet of the true and living God? Why did he seek to flee from the forceful spirit as it commandingly seized him with the revelations? Has anyone who adheres to the tenants of Islam considered this?

    Yes, God will judge all nations who forget Him. Let&#39;s just make sure were serving the right God.

  5. #65
    arron (arron) Guest

    Default labrat het right with the true

    labrat het right with the true GOD.. THE LORD JESUS CHRIST

  6. #66
    arron (arron) Guest

    Default labrat... i meant get not het

    labrat... i meant get not het

  7. #67
    ihavesinned (ihavesinned) Guest

    Default everybody, get over to the Ler

    everybody, get over to the Leroy Jenkins board quick, before it&#39;s too late. I think a hearty discussion of the good reverend is just what you all need.

  8. #68
    sharon (sharon) Guest

    Default I do not think we can say that

    I do not think we can say that God made global warming and caused the gulf to heat up, there by making storms so much stronger. Nor did God miss the message on the front page of the paper showing what a storm like that would do in the exact way it did it. Nor did God not heed the message to leave. Someone left the levies to fall apart, and did not spend needed money on them, but it was not God. God did not leave mulitudes of busses to sit and be flooded instead of using them to carry away those who needed help. God did not vote for Bush nor place those in charge of Fema. Somebody is at fault but it is not God.

  9. #69
    real_common_sense (real_common_sense) Guest

    Default Question: So when the earth

    Question:

    So when the earthquake struck the Islamic country of Turkey in &#39;99 killing over 17,000 people -- was that a curse too?

    If so, no offense, but:

    Turkey Earthquake: 17,000
    Hurrican Katrina: 1,000

    Why did Allah like America better?

  10. #70
    sharon (sharon) Guest

    Default Cando.. Your first message rea

    Cando.. Your first message reads This hurricane is a curse of Allah on YOU Americans.WE Muslims . Then you claim to be an American, which is it? You are not here telling lies and spreading hate are you? You have forgotten one of the ten commandments and are bearing false witness. I take it that you are neither Christian nor Muslim, but a hate monger. Play your games elsewhere for as you can see these are the wrong people to play with.

  11. #71
    laabt (laabt) Guest

    Default hi Sharon there nothing wrong

    hi Sharon there nothing wrong with his statement..as Muslim&#39;s we believe we are one family what ever country we come from..so yes he can be american but still use the word &#34;we&#34; because he uses it to explain is connection to the muslim family wherever they are..i guess it&#39;s no different then Christian ur one body wherever ur christian brothers &amp; sister are right? andy

  12. #72
    arron (arron) Guest

    Default old labrat is posting again???

    old labrat is posting again?????? ugh

  13. #73
    sharon (sharon) Guest

    Default Laabt.. If I said You Muslims

    Laabt.. If I said You Muslims and Us Americans am I calling us all one family? You Muslims may see it that way but Us other people see them and us when it is written that way ,not one big happy family but as a difference being pointed out. If he had of meant himself he would have said We Americans think this or that not You Americans. He is seperating himself from his own country by his words. This must be in his mind. I want him to see that he has done this.

  14. #74
    arron (arron) Guest

    Default amen.. sharon...amen AMEN

    amen.. sharon...amen AMEN

  15. #75
    bettle (bettle) Guest

    Default Hi, I'm Muslim and I

    Hi,

    I&#39;m Muslim and I can clear up some of these questions you all have. Also could you please be respectful of my religion? I don&#39;t go around insulting Christianity just because on Christian tells me I&#39;m going to hell, so I don&#39;t see why you should batter Islam. Most of what I&#39;ve read thus far is COMPLETELY incorrect, way out of the left field, moon god? LMAO at that one, aaron you seem like a really hateful person, take a chill pill once in a while why dontcha?


    &#34;Question:

    So when the earthquake struck the Islamic country of Turkey in &#39;99 killing over 17,000 people -- was that a curse too?&#34;


    Answer:

    In times of devastating disasters such as the recent South Asian tsunami, a large number of people are expected to die. In Shari`ah, people who die in such disasters are considered martyrs. Their account is left to Allah who alone knows their intentions and deeds. So, we should make du`a’ for their forgiveness and pardon.

    Muslims in such times should hasten to Allah by repenting and should feel compassion towards the victims of this calamity, which is a sign from Allah. They should not gloat over others’ grief. They should also hasten to help the survivors by all possible means.

    &#34;With all due respect to peace-loving adherants of Islam; how can one claim that the Islamic Prophet is a prophet of the true and living God? Why did he seek to flee from the forceful spirit as it commandingly seized him with the revelations? Has anyone who adheres to the tenants of Islam considered this?

    Yes, God will judge all nations who forget Him. Let&#39;s just make sure were serving the right God.&#34;

    I agree God will judge all who forget him and yes I am TOTALLY positive I am serving the right God . Infinately positive actually . Gaberial came the Prophet&#40;sas&#41; and yes he shook out of fear, I mean who would randomly smile upon seeing an angel, I would freak out, I don&#39;t know about you and the message being delivered to him was intense, the angle clasped him to get the connective message across, IKRA! READ! That was the first surah revealed to the Nabi&#40;sas&#41;.

    erich , thanks for your comment on God being able to control everything but why would someone go to an anti-islam site to get information about islam? If I wanted to learn about Hinduism I wouldn&#39;t go to www.hindusgotohell.com to get my daily dose of all that is hindu.

    infoman,

    &#34;Also Mohammed writes his own religion not from God 300 years after the old testament was written. Mohammed sinned, murdered, comitted fornication and adultery among other things. He is hardly a MESSIAH or prophet from God. &#34;

    Can you please back up your claims?

    The sky is red
    Cando has blue hair
    arrun smells like purple coloured fish.

    I can make unwarranted claims too...woopdi do please present evidence for your claims, bud.

    Furthermore, the Prophet&#40;sas&#41; is dead, what&#39;s your point. He wasn&#39;t God, God isn&#39;t dead, God will never die, He is the First and the Last. Where are you going with this? Everyone soul shall taste death, woopdi do, I again fail to see your point. We as Muslims, also believe Jesus&#40; peace be upon him&#41; is alive and well in heaven, bet you didn&#39;t know we believed that, did ya? We also believe he&#39;ll be back &#40; God willing&#41; and he&#39;ll finally set the record straight.

    Jesus&#40; peace be upon him&#41; is so awesome! I love him ALOT, like MUCHO much, I hope inshAllah that I meet him sometime in the future . I want to have a looooooonnnng talk about this, I bet he has a lot to say on issues today .

    I&#39;m getting tired and its getting late, my last comment is, in ISlam God and the devil are NOT equals. God&#39;s not like the good guy and the devil the bad guy. In fact the devil believes in God&#39;s existence however the devil is who he is b/c he was proud. He disobbeyed Allah and he is now well not too happy with it, so he wants to misguide as many people as he can so he can show humans are lame. Let&#39;s not be lame ok?

    I&#39;m Muslim ok, I am. I believe in this religion from the bottom of my heart. I believe that I will meet you people one day as we all stand in front of Allah&#40;swt&#41; on Jday and face our destiny. Let me be honest with you, I want everyone one of you to become Muslim, I really do. I can promise you everything that this is the right religion, it really is, but I know not everyone can be Muslim, if everyone was Muslim then well we wouldn&#39;t be talking about this now.

    So whatever happens remember I made this plea to you ok? Cool, see you all when I see ya .

    I hope I didn&#39;t offend anyone I was only trying to get my point across.

  16. #76
    godchild (godchild) Guest

    Default Bettle, Thank you for showing

    Bettle, Thank you for showing respect. In return I hope you receive it. God bless you. Is it true that Mohammed said Jesus Christ was his literal brother?

  17. #77
    bettle (bettle) Guest

    Default Hey godchild, what's up?

    Hey godchild, what&#39;s up?

    No problem at all, I think that one of the things lacking these days in all walks of life is respect for our fellow people, I guess the manners stage was skipped for some of us.

    As per your question, I&#39;m not sure exactly what you mean but I think you&#39;re asking did Muhammed&#40;sas&#41; say Jesus&#40; peace be upon him&#41; was his blood brother? The answer to that is no. He did say that there is no one betweek himself and Jesus. This means that after his passing Jesus will return and there won&#39;t be another random prophet in between them, that is why in Islam we reject all these new random prophets that some people claim to have come and then claim to be apart of Islam. To us Muhammed&#40;sas&#41; was the last final prophet with the message but Jesus&#40;peace be upon him&#41; will return but not to preach. We believe that all prophets and saintly people throughout the times have come with the same message, your God is One God so Worship only Him. But this message was distorted by human error through time. God is so merciful that He kept sending more and more messengers to us so we could get the picture but each time it was distorted. God finally sent the last prophet, who was Muhammed&#40;sas&#41;with his final message to the world till the day of judgement.

    I just want to note that when I say &#34;He&#34; in reference to God, I don&#39;t mean &#34;he&#34; in the male form. To us God is neither male or female, or else that would be unfair, and claim that one sex was higher than another. God is seperate from creation b/c God is more great then it. Since God is outside time and space&#40; which explains why He can be anywhere with everyone at the same time&#41; He is not a human being, He is outside the scope of the human&#39;s imagination so we cannot picture Him in our minds even if we were to try, He&#39;s just too Great!

    Anyways I disgressed a bit but I hope I answered your question. Hope you have a good day .

    Bet

  18. #78
    laabt (laabt) Guest

    Default hi sharon u said "He is se

    hi sharon u said &#34;He is seperating himself from his own country by his words&#34; would u not separate urself from ur government if it went against ur faith?is it ok to say take the 10 commandments off the court walls or not to pray in school? u can be a American and still disagree with ur Government..after all u love God above all, even ur country right? i would say hardly anyone i know in uk is pro the iraq war many see blair as bush puppet but there still proud to be english..
    aron ur so kind,i read ur post and think of Jesus straight away ur like a mirror of is love, bet ur fav verse is Jesus whippin people out the temple rofl
    andy

    &#40;Message edited by laabt on October 07, 2005&#41;

    &#40;Message edited by laabt on October 07, 2005&#41;

  19. #79
    laabt (laabt) Guest

    Default interesting thing i heard in t

    interesting thing i heard in the news this week..the church over here are going to produce a pamphlet about Jesus birth,after a kid asked is teacher why was Jesus named after a swear word..ironically my americian friends said were lucky they wouldnt even let a pamphlet into ur schools about Jesus..
    labrat
    aj

    &#40;Message edited by laabt on October 07, 2005&#41;

  20. #80
    glorytoallah (glorytoallah) Guest

    Default Lisen People how dare you insu

    Lisen People how dare you insult the lord of the heavs and the Earth. Jesus is a man chousen buy god to warn you of hell and the day when all well be juged. Also the moon god thing it was made up buy a jew. O god have mersy

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