I was wondering if the pentec
I was wondering if the pentecostal religion was a cult?? I have always heard it was..I know people(certain family members) who go to a pentecostal church, they seem "brainwashed", and seem to "shun" those who do not -practice- or -preach- with them. Even shunning their own family members,because certain "views" were not the same. If you know about this religion, or have seen any cult-like, behavior from the pentecostal religion PLease Let Me Know.. thanks
MANY OF THE PENTACOSTAL FAITH
MANY OF THE PENTACOSTAL FAITH GET LIIKE THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES GOING TO HEAVEN BUT THAT IS NOT TRUE FOR ALL OF THEM. THE MAJORITY OF PENTACOSTALS ARE GOD LOVING PEOPLE AND ARE NOT CULTIC AT ALL I AM A MEMBER OF A HOLINESS CHURCH. WE DO BELEIVE IN LIVING ACCORDING TO STRICT RULES AND MAY AHVE DIFFERENT IDEAS THAN OTHER CHURCHES BUT WE DO NOT EXCULDE ANY ONE WHO SAYS THEY ARE SAVED
Thanks Aaron, I just think th
Thanks Aaron, I just think the church Abundant Life Ministries in Cininnati Ohio is a cult,because of some of the weird things that go on. Not to mention, most of the members who go there seem to HAVE to consult their "pastor" before making any decisions. Almost like they are not their "own" persons anymore. They cant confront other family members on anything without A. The pastor being there. OR
B. Basing the whole conversation with "Our Pastor said...this is wrong or right"
Like the 'Pastor' was controlling their whole life...
Now the family members who do go to this church will not talk to the rest of the family, because of a clash in different views.. and that was back in OCT 2003! A whole YEAR has went by, no one is aloud to see their kids, or speak to them. And we think the pastor is behind it all, Most "Helpers of God"(meaning the pastor) would try to help bring this family back together!! But instead he's telling them terrible things, especially to the kids-like--"your mother and father are not speaking to the rest of their family, and you should not either--because if you do, that family may take you away from your mother and father, and put you in foster homes, and you will never see your family again" NOW WHAT KIND OF PASTOR IS THAT??? SOUNDS LIKE A CULT TO ME WHAT DO YOU THINK????
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!!!
Is
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!!!
Is every religian a cult to someone?
look at this board, someone is questioning almost
every denomination out there!!!!!!!
qwerty-
I was just thinking
qwerty-
I was just thinking the same thing!
I do think johnny has a problem tho. If it is as you say johnny, it most definitely is a cult. Pray hard.
That church sounds scary
That church sounds scary
To all who posted on this : T
To all who posted on this : Thank you--We all have been praying VERY hard. We all just dont understand how someone who is supposed to be a "helper under God" (the Pastor) wont help us work our problems out..Yet the "pastor" says it is because "WE" are not members of "THEIR" church... (even though a family member that we are having problems with DOES go there) BUT if thats the case--why then does the "pastor" collect and send donations to the poor kids of east africa..who dont belong to THEIR church much less this country. IT ALL JUST SEEMS VERY ODD TO ME!!
Johnny -
You are absolutely
Johnny -
You are absolutely right and thinking very clearly. Unfortunately, those who succumb to these wolves in sheeps clothing have given in to a spirit of deception. You must pray that they may overcome that spirit of deception and then remain sensitive to the Holy Spirit so you know what to say and when to say it.
SOMETIMES THE UPC IS VERY DOG
SOMETIMES THE UPC IS VERY DOGMATIC IN THE FACT THAT THEY BELEIVE YOU HAVE TO BE BAPTISED IN THE NAME OF JESUS IN ORDER TO BE SAVED NOW THEY DO TEND TO GET CULTIC LIKE.. I DID NOT SAY THEY WERE CULTIC BUT CULTIC LIKE IN THE DOCTRINE
I KNOW I AM SAVED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS AND BAPTISED OR NOT AM GOING TO HEAVEN. I AM OF COURSE BAPTISED IN THE WATER AND I DO HAVE THE BAPTISIUM OF THE HOLY GHOST
to qwerty
Most denomination
to qwerty
Most denominations have a few bad apples. Others, like the one I came out of, have more than their share.
It just a fact of life.
Johnny is NOT thinking clearl
Johnny is NOT thinking clearly! Churches are not fast food advice givers. Most of the time the problems that people face in their life are a result of not being truly connected to Christ, nor to the Body of Christ. A pastor is not a 'helper under God'. He is a shepherd of those who are in his flock. There is a responsibility upon the part of the pastor to not only give out 'advice', but he has to give an account to the Lord for how he has shepherded those in his care.
If someome is not actually in his care, the pastor is very limited to what he can give that person, not knowing him/her in a personal way. In fact, it could be very dangerous to give off-hand 'advice' without a true personal relationship with that person.
Sending 'donations' to poor kids in other nations is not the same thing as 'helping' someone out of their problems.
At the end of the day the Lord Jesus Christ is the only one who can help Johnny, a pastor's responsibility is to bring Johnny to Him. If Johnny doesn't want to come, the pastor cannot help him.
Pentecostals are one of the c
Pentecostals are one of the closest true denominations. But they are wrong in about a half dozen of their teachings. In the book of Acts they had all things common, but the preachers want to take them back to the Old Testament, the book of Malachi. So they can get 10% of their wages. Just put tithing in your search engine and let the Holy Ghost lead you.
I paid tithes for 7 plus years and ended up in bankruptcy court. Then God (not man) opened my eyes to the truth. But I started out in a cult called The Church of Jesus Christ (NOT latter day saints)they have almost the same doctrines.
But they say they are the only true church, because you can't be Pentecost, because it was a day, and you can't be a dayIf you have never been to a Pentecostal church, try it. But if the hand of God moves and you get the Holy Ghost or healed don't worship or trust the preacher with all your heart, because he could be a devil. Remember this, all the law is fulfilled in ONE WORD, AND IT'S NOT TITHING.
Every man should study the wo
Every man should study the word of God for themselves. It seems like most people today have created their own religion. God knows what he wants, and He is the final authority of what is acceptable. Pentecost is an experience. People continue to explain things away... I would suggest that anyone that has questions about Baptism in Jesus name and being filled with the Holy Spirit seek God FOR YOURSELF. GO TO HIS WORD AND PRAY. HE IS THE REWARDER OF THEM THAT DELINGENTLY SEEK HIM. SEEK HIM, NOT A RELIGION OR TRADITION. I DID, AND I WAS FILLED WITH THE HOLYSPIRIT (SPEAKING IN TONGUES AS THE SPIRIT GAVE UTTERANCE), AND IT WAS REVEALED TO ME THAT I NEEDED THE WATER BAPTISM IN JESUS NAME. SEEK GOD!
Johnny! Thankyou so much for
Johnny! Thankyou so much for bringing up the words CULT and PENTACOSTAL in your message,in answer to your question yes unfortunatly it is a cult. I am an optimist and always give everyone and evrything a chance. Big mistake in this case I lost my daughter to the Pentacostal cult and I am terrified of the mindset she has adopted,she is vacant in her eyes,she shuns the family,friends that she had all through her childhood erased from her life. I need some help with this "PLEASE someone help me,HELP us.
You are all in my thoughts and prayers.
ive never seen so many people
ive never seen so many people judging others when there not in the position to as in the pentecostal church
Is the pentacostal church a cu
Is the pentacostal church a cult? I really cannot say but I'll tell you all why I left. I left because they believe the only way your a christian is if you speak in tounges, which is not true. they are way too judgemental, they shun you if you dissagree w/ them and I dont like the way they treat women.
You want to talk about "ju
You want to talk about "judgemental" try a Catholic Church. I know I experienced first hand the Catholic Church. The Bible talks about relationships with other Christians and the Lord's Supper this was something I was not taught in the Catholic Catechism but rather learned on my own through Bible study 1 Corinthians 11:29-30 "For all who eat and drink without discerning the body, eat and drink judgement against themselves. 30For this reason many of you are weak and ill, and some have died." (NOAB)
I left the Catholic Church because of a catholic Chaplain that perverted the Gospel. And the laws of celibacy don't apply to all Pastors, if that was true the main disciple Peter would not of been married, of course Jesus did not bind that law on him, but rather believing in him is a requirement for "eternal life", and that is more important than celibacy, as Peter had "strong firm faith" as he was crucified upside down on a rugged cross. I have learned that Church is not about a particular religion but rather about a "true Pastor" that does work at God's word, God's love, and studies the word of God, the mebers of the body, relationships witht the memebrs, having "strong firm faith" in Jesus Christ, and administering the gifts of the Holy Spirit for the Christian community, and that takes a true Pastor to lead and guide in the administering of the gifts, some Pastors want to see the gifts administered, and for building up the body of Christ, the opposite is true for a "false Pastor". The Bible speaks of false prophets 1 John 4:5 "They are from the world; therefore what they say is from the world, and the world listens to them."(NOAB) Other verse(s) speak of "fruits" you will know the false prophets by their fruits. As Christians we produce fruit. Hate is not a fruit of the Holy Spirit, but rather probably an antonym "love" is a fruit of the spirit.
I adhere to 1 Corinthians 11:31 "But if we judged ourselves, we would not be judged." (NOAB) I try to live out that verse because I know how judgemental other people are. I like a Church that administers the gifts of the Holy Ghost. The gifts are for the Christian community, I've read it in the Bible, I don't recall the verse quickly but can search it out if necessary. I make sure that my life is together before I set foot in any Church. I don't go to Church to sit in the pews, I want to see the gifts of the Holy Ghost administered with boldness, an outpouring of the Holy Spirit, and the Gospel preached with boldness, when I walk into a Church. I want to see Matt. 10:1 in real life.
(Message edited by medicine on December 01, 2004)
our pastor apoints his on elde
our pastor apoints his on elders an decons and we never vote on anything he just tells us what we are doing next is this right
i also grew up bapasit and lon
i also grew up bapasit and long to be a deacon but he would never pick me i dont fit his profile i sopose
Why do pentacostals think that
Why do pentacostals think that their right and everyone else is wrong? Can someone answer that?
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