If you get a check in your spirit TRS (hate check or otherwise) feel free to make it out to me. Otherwise, I'll send you cartons of free teaching tapes anytime you want, just say the magic word.
HEY geta hate check?
I have my own companies so I pay myself and my time is my own.
But you waste peoples offering money that you deceitfully collect.
So this is what you do with the free will offering money THAT you get paid from?
You browse the internet and support Creflo and Copeland spending Fifty Million dollars on airplanes, and Rolex watches Rolls Royces etc...and you call that good stewardship.![]()
No one gives Murdock, Copeland or Creflo Dollar, money expecting for them to use it on their airplanes, African lions, Rolex watches, their WASTED Rolls Royce, $5,000 suits etc.
People give it expecting it to get souls saved.
All these fools evil greed lustifilled speding on these in depth articles linked below.
Click the link....
http://wittenburgdoor.com/archives/airmen.html
http://www.trinityfi.org/
Kenneth Copelands Airportlink below.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/4T2
Their hearts are in airplanes, African lions, Rolex watches,...the worlds overpriced junk status symbols.
If you get a check in your spirit TRS (hate check or otherwise) feel free to make it out to me. Otherwise, I'll send you cartons of free teaching tapes anytime you want, just say the magic word.
geta life,
You waste peoples offering money that you deceitfully collect.
This is what you do with the free will offering money THAT you get paid from?
You browse the internet and support Creflo and Copeland spending Fifty Million dollars on airplanes, and Rolex watches Rolls Royces etc...and you call that good stewardship.
No one gives MONEY to Murdock, Copeland or Creflo Dollar, expecting them to use it on their airplanes, African lions, Rolex watches, their WASTED Rolls Royce, $5,000 suits etc.
People give it expecting it to get souls saved.
All these fools evil greed lustifilled speding on these in depth articles linked below.
Click the link of articles with the facts about these and the other evil stewards....
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Their hearts are in airplanes, African lions, Rolex watches,...the worlds overpriced junk status symbols and not people.
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Where should I mail all of the free stuff that you want? My desire is to send a truck load.
TRS murmured "This is what you do with the free will offering money THAT you get paid from?"
I have two questions, then as much as I have enjoyed acting like you today, I need to go.
1) What do you mean, "with the free will offering money", does it cost to be on Factnet?
2) Why did you capitalize the word "THAT"? I won't be able to sleep until you explain the signifigance of the word "THAT" in this latest post.
When I go to the KCM Ministers Conference, it is a three day (all day) event and that don't charge ONE dime for it. It's FREE, TRS - FREE!
I don't know how he does it, there's like 1500 people there, hundreds of ushers, sound techs, parking attendants, etc. ALL FREE.
One thing you wouldn't care for is the way that when all of the WOF ministries are gathered together, they can't fit all the planes in the hangar. That will make you mad. Oh yeah, and they make me pay for my own food. The food is NOT FREE.
Tell me where to send the FREE tapes and CD's.
"Doctor Mike has no phd or reputable degree from any accredited university or college that anyone could find." Yet He calls himself Dr. to give himself false credibility.
He deceives to motivate people into giving him money.
Mike Murdock does have his 10-seat Israel Aircraft Industries turbojet owned by his ministry and valued at $1,055,550.
In 2002, he also said, he bought a 1973 Cessna Citation 500, a corporate jet that usually seats six.
Down on The Hacienda, or at least that's what Mike Murdock calls his Texas mansion, there's still another jetsetter with a penchant for exotic animals such as llamas, a camel, an antelope and a lion. ...
Murdocks son Jason Murdock, 27, said "people sometimes question his father's methods as well as his fast cars, expensive jewelry and estate in Argyle, where he has kept exotic animals such as llamas, a camel, an antelope and a lion."
Murdock has said ministers shouldn't have to apologize for having wealth...(using offering money sent in for soul winning and put in his own pocket for his wasteful spending.)
"Sometimes his lavishness is a little crazy," Jason Murdock said. "Who needs an African lion for a pet.(or to feed)?"
How just plain foolish to give money to this lust filled spender of peoples offering money on his over the top ridiculous lavish bad stewardship.
Bad stewardship ground to plant in for no return but Murdocks pocket.
No one gives MONEY to Murdock, Copeland or Creflo Dollar, expecting them to use it on their airplanes, African lions, Rolex watches, their WASTED Rolls Royce, $5,000 suits etc.
People give it expecting it to get souls saved but no results.
All these fools evil greed lustfilled spending on these in depth articles linked below.
Click the link of articles with the facts about these and the other evil stewards....
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Jesus said "Their hearts are where their treasure is" in airplanes, African lions, Rolex watches,Rolls Royce cars, $5,000 suits.....the worlds overpriced junk status symbols and not people.
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Quite a few months back, I saw a preacher on the Benny Hinn show, who i think was Mike Murdock, he said that if people would send in at least $117 to the Benny Hinn ministry as an atonement offering then they would be safe from the coming earthquakes and troubles coming upon the earth, and that this was the safest thing to do to keep safe and not to come to God empty handed. Benny Hinn then agreed completely. I was unable to videotape this, but people refuse to believe that this was said, so I am looking for proof to show them, so if anyone else saw this, or knows of people who saw it, or if you know of an article or website which shows or discusses it, i would appreciate knowing, as I cant find anything. Thanks
Anyone who can't believe this hasn't watched much 'Christian' television. When I think I've heard it all from them, someone comes up with another absurd carrot to bait the foolish loyal viewers. They promise everything from salvation to dollars to success to protection from one thing or another. This is just the protestant style of catholic indulgences to rake in big bucks to enrich themselves and finance their apostate agendas.
The shysters know there are always plenty of foolish viewers waiting to be made bigger fools of. They look at the poor souls like they are their private FREE bankers they can get cash from 24/7. And they are. Pitiful.
What is most important to these is evidenced in the their usage of money.
Too many of these frauds lust and value owning STATUS things over reaching people. Their love is in money not for people.
They prove this by their use of money lavishing on themselves for $30,000 Rolex watches, $5,000 suits, $100k-$500k cars $3 million dollar houses...}
Matthew 6:19-21
"Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
This was so good it was worth posting again.
"Woke up this morning, turned on the TV set;
There in living color was something I won't forget.
This man was preachin' at me, yeah, layin' on the charm,
askin' me for twenty, with ten thousand on his arm.
He wore designer clothing and a big smile on his face,
sellin' me salvation with they sang Amazin' Grace.
Askin' me for money, when he had all the signs of wealth.
Almost wrote a check out, yeah, then I asked myself:
Would he wear a pinky ring,
would he drive a fancy car,
would his wife wear fur and diamonds,
would his dressing room have a star?
If he came back tomorrow, there's something I'd like to know:
Would Jesus Wear a Rolex on his television show?
Would Jesus be political, if he came back to earth?
Have his second home in Palm Springs, yeah, try to hide his worth?
Take money from those poor folks if he came back again,
and admit he's talked to all them preachers that say they've been a talkin' to Him!
Just ask yourself:
Would he wear a pinky ring,
would he drive a fancy car,
would wife wear fur and diamonds,
would his dressing room have a starrrrr,
If he came back tomorrow, wooh, theres somethin' I'd like to know,
would Jesus wear a Rolex on his television show?"
Lyrics: Ray Stevens
Luke 16:10 "He that is faithful in that which is least(money)is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in (money) which is the least is unjust also in much.
11If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?
12And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own? No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Subsidizing these frauds, without knowing how the money is spent and results yielded is bad stewardship of the money God blesses you with. God doesn't give it to you to blindly give it to some crook to spend it on $5,000 suits, and $30,000 watches, and unneccessary $20 million dollar jets... instead of souls. It's just as bad as these frauds using the donations for their Rolex's, airplanes, luxury fleet of cars, mansions, $5,000 suits, exotic animals, etc. and not on people.
Lets not miss this opportunity of reporting Murdock.
Sen. Chuck Grassley
135 Hart Senate Bldg.
Washington, DC
20510-1501
202.224.3744
Senate Panel Probes 6 Top Televangelists
WASHINGTON (CBS) Nov 2007
CBS News has learned Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, is investigating six prominent televangelist ministries for possible financial misconduct.
Letters were sent Monday to the ministries demanding that financial statements and records be turned over to the committee by December 6th.
According to Grassley's office, the Iowa Republican is trying to determine whether or not these ministries are improperly using their tax-exempt status as churches to shield lavish lifestyles.
The six ministries identified as being under investigation by the committee are led by: Paula White, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long, Kenneth Copeland and Benny Hinn. Three of the six - Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland and Creflo Dollar - also sit on the Board of Regents for the Oral Roberts University.
A spokesperson for Joyce Meyer Ministries provided CBS News with an IRS letter to the ministry dated October 10, 2007, that stated: "We determined that you continue to qualify as an organization exempt from Federal income tax." The letter could not be independently verified in time for this story. The ministry also pointed to audited financial statements for the last three years that are posted on the organization's Web site.
In a statement, Benny Hinn's spokesperson, Ronn Torossian, said the ministry was in the process of determining the best course of action in response to the Senate investigation. "World Healing Center Church complies with the laws that govern church and non-profit organizations and will continue to do so," Torossian wrote.
In a statement to CBS News, Creflo Dollar called his ministry an "open book" and said he would comply with any "valid request" from Grassley. But he noted that the inquiry raised questions that could "affect the privacy of every community church in America."
The other three ministries did not respond to requests for comment from CBS News on Monday.
Because they have tax status as churches, the ministries do not have to file IRS 990 forms like other non-profit organizations - leaving much financial information largely behind closed doors.
The letters sent Monday were the culmination of a long investigation fueled in part by complaints from Ole Anthony, a crusader against religious fraud who operates the Dallas-based Trinity Foundation, which describes itself as a watchdog monitoring religious media, fraud and abuse. "We've been working with them for two years," Anthony told CBS News. "We have furnished them with enough information to fill a small Volkswagen."
Anthony said after twenty years of working with media organizations to expose televangelists, he saw little reform. He says that's why he turned to another tactic, going straight to Grassley. He is confident that Grassley's inquiry will be different, "What we hope is that this will lead to reform in religious nonprofits."
The structure of many televangelist organizations - in which the leadership is often concentrated in one person or one family - has itself been the target of criticism. "Churches like these are ruled as a dictatorship," says Rod Pitzer, who directs research at Ministry Watch in North Carolina, which provides advice for donors to Christian organizations.
Pitzer welcomes the Senate committee investigation. Ministries lacking accountability, he says, "give a black eye to churches and Christians who are trying to do things in the right manner."
continued. . .
Lets not miss this opportunity of reporting Murdock.
Sen. Chuck Grassley
135 Hart Senate Bldg.
Washington, DC
20510-1501
202.224.3744
Senate Panel Probes 6 Top Televangelists
WASHINGTON (CBS) Nov 2007
CBS News has learned Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, is investigating six prominent televangelist ministries for possible financial misconduct.
Proof that is on IRS records of Murdock, Thompson launders money with Mike Murdock (each a 501c3 non-profit org) buying and giving Mike Murdocks organization a $75,000 BMW while Murdock in turn gives Thompsons organization checks totaling that amount calling it an offering birthday present(months after his birthday) and mortgage payments for his house.(Average check $15,000). Taking offering money and giving it to each other claiming the tax deduction illegaly trying to avoid the IRS and taxes.
$25,000 birthday gift in July? Thompsons birthday is in April.
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/9790/
Dallas Ft Worth Newspaper
In 2002 and 2003, the ministry gave $72,000 to televangelist Robb Thompson of Tinley Park, Ill. Murdock has described Thompson as one of his closest friends.
The figure includes an April 2003 check for $8,500 with the notation “B. Day gift.” In July 2002, the ministry gave Thompson a $25,000 check with the notation “happy birthday!!” Thompson received another check that year for $15,000 with the notation “one house note!” No records of reimbursement for the checks could be found.
Thompson did not return a phone call seeking comment. Thompson’s birthday is in April, Illinois driver’s license records show
Pitzer said the payments “look blatantly wrong.”
Vargas said that a large cash gift from a charitable organization to an individual seems “very out of the ordinary” but that it could have been a payment for services, which would be legal.
If conducting an audit, an IRS examiner would investigate the relationship between the person receiving the gift and the organization to determine whether it was legal, Vargas said.
Prus said Thompson has been a speaker at past ministry conferences, but he declined to comment further on the checks.
Murdock and Thompson often exchange gifts, said Murdock’s son, Jason Murdock, who lives in Atlanta.
“They’ve always done that kind of thing,” he said in a telephone interview last month. “I’ve seen it happen multiple times: `Here’s a love gift. Here’s 25 G’s,’” meaning $25,000.
A few years ago, Thompson gave Mike Murdock a BMW delivered from Germany, Jason Murdock said.
At an October 2002 conference in Grapevine, Texas, Mike Murdock said a friend gave him a new BMW 745 delivered from Germany. Such a car would probably cost about $70,000 if purchased new.
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