Godbs Word Fellowship A True Church Darwin Fish Archive 12012002

[Anonymous]

Hello everyone. I agree that the Bible and different beliefs will come up even though we are talking about he subject cults. We do get carried away with our personal beliefs which maybe we should set aside to help others. Cults are a horrible thing, i think from reading Rita Bryants letter that her son is definitely in
trouble. anonymous

[Jean-Paul]

If you look closely, you will understand that I was objecting to the language in which one states their belief in the Christian god; I was not criticizing a basal belief in Christianity. Some people on this site come across sounding as though a loud booming voice out of the sky told them to post here. That kind of rhetoric is not only annoying, but counterproductive to the purpose of this site.

I'm sorry if you were offended. However, let's not get into an argument over this, alright? Just accept my apology and move on.

p.s. and if anyone has any bible quotes about loud booming voices in the sky, or anything like that, please keep them to yourself for I will not respond to them.

[Anonymous]

Well Jean-Paul, you are certainly a little self righteous yourself, feeling you have all the answers. It seems like you would tend to say all churches are cults, is tht right, except perhaps the one you go to, by the way do you have a personal belief in God.You would have us all seeking out the cultish attitudes in every Christian organization. Do you have a personal story about a cult situation, are you writing a book, are you trying to help people, whats the deal. Sam Shields, UPC

[Anonymous]

I'm curious about that myself.
Are you a Christian Jean Paul? Have you or someone you know been in a cult??? Are you a moderator here? You seem to like to take control of the board. Is your job to keep everyone on the subject?

[Anonymous]

anonymous to Jean=Paul, i too wonder what part you play, too evasive.

[Anonymous]

Hello, what ever happened to Darwin Fish and Al Soto and Rita Bryants child. where is truedeciet, he didnot say they did not beat chkldren and wifes. seemslike they got scared when they got some alligatins theywere not ready to defend theirselves. i came on herer because inheard aboutthis, from freind, josh

[No Deceit]

Mrs Rita Bryant, blasphemer

I really fear for your soul because your post blasphemes the truth of God.

It amazes me, Mam, that you turn a statement of fact and truth (women are to suffer unto death, as ALL Christians are called to do) into a suggestion, that we teach our men to beat their wives.

Please read the following verse:
1 Peter 2:
18 Servants, be **submissive** to your masters with all fear, not only to the good and gentle, **but also to the harsh.** 19For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully. 20For what credit is it if, when you are **beaten** for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God. 21**For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us,[6] leaving us[7] an example, that you should follow His steps**

The Apostle Peter teaches that we are to follow in Christ's steps Who suffered for us and we therefore are to be ready to suffer likewise. Peter in the same breath teaches women to likwise (in like manner of what I just taught servents to be submissive as) be submissive to their husbands.

1 Peter 3
1 Wives, likewise, be submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct of their wives. . .

A woman of faith can win a wicked man, even one who beats her, to Christ. If she dies in the process, she gains eternity. Note, I said a WICKED man, not a saved man, but an unbeliever.

Our men are taught to lay down their lives for their wives, to love them as Christ loved the church, and to dwell with them with understanding.

Mam, you then have the audacity to speak evil of the Apostle Paul when you defame him for stating a fact about the creation of women.

1 Corinthians 11:
8For man is not from woman, but woman from man. 9Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for the man.

Simple statement, but you Mam, speak evil of this fact. Why? Because you are a wicked and rebellious woman.

Mrs. Rita Bryant states,
"If a man in GWF has a daughter and he does not want her to get married, then she is to obey him, stay in his house, under his authority. I guess until he dies or she dies. After all, she EXISTS to "help" her father or husband. (Other men? I don't know.)
Of course, they believe a woman should remain silent until a man gives them permission to speak."

Yes a godly man in A True Church may choose to keep his virgin a virgin. Once again you speak evil of the truth of God.

1 Corinthians 7:
37Nevertheless he who stands steadfast in his heart, having no necessity, but has power over his own will, and has so determined in his heart that he will keep his virgin,[2] does well. 38So then he who gives her[3] in marriage does well, but he who does not give her in marriage does better.

I do not know if I should laugh or cry. Your statements are so blantanly false and evil.

Yes, we believe women are to be silent in church. You know why?

1 Corinthians 14
34Let your[1] women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. 35And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.

Yes, we believe children are a blessing, and, "Happy is the man who has his quiver full of them; They shall not be ashamed, But shall speak with their enemies in the gate."(Psalm 127:5) No shame for us to believe this.

Babies at home- I have three children and they have all been born at the hospital. Doctors have been a blessing to me and my family. Come to think of it, only the Fish family has had their children at home.

Yes, our women breast feed. . .so? As to eating foods and all that you can talk to Casey and Deserie about that.

Yes, we homeschool our children. Praise God! Need we even have to go there? My child won't be taught the homosexual way and "evil"loution.

My kids have many stuffed animals. Uhh, dogs don't talk...Mrs Bryant, do I need to prove this to you?

Decorations on the wall? Uhh, we are not Muslim. I have lot of decorations on our walls.

You state, "If a woman does not "obey" these commands and others, she is no better than a witch is and she is an abomination to God. She is wicked and on her way to hell."

The only commands she is to obey are those taught in Scripture. And I believe I made it clear which ones are commands of God and which ones are not.

My girls sleep in their own room. Our baby is the only one who sleeps with my wife and I.

Yes, Debt is to be paid back, and A.S.A.P. Why?

Psalm 37:21
The wicked borrows and does not repay, But the righteous shows mercy and gives.

and

Romans 13:
7Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.
(1) 8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.

The man you refer to (who was a wicked man who did not repay) was not kicked out of the church, but confronted with his sin, he supposedly repented. This man continued in his wicked ways and left the church. He was never kicked out of the church as you state.

Once more Mrs. Bryant you speak evil of Scripture. Most debt is ungodly.

We do not believe that you must fellowship with us to be saved.

We do believe that you must have the same mind, same judgment, in regards to what the Bible teaches.

1 Corinthians 1
10 Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

Yes, if you do not believe like we do and follow our doctrine you can not be saved.

1 John 4
6We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

Our doctrine is the same doctrine that Christ preached through His Holy word.

Mrs Rita Bryant, take heed to the truth, repent from your evil, repent from your hate and come to the knowledge of truth. Don't despise the good things of God and do not rely on your own understanding. . .that is folly.

I do thank you for your posts, because I plan to read them to my children along with my response. I thank you for the blessings bestowed on us. It is an honor to partake in the sufferings of Christ.

In His love,

al soto

[No Deceit]

Sorry, I misspelled Ma'am.

al

[Anonymous]

Deceit: u no, u never answered questions, u r the coward
l. do you believe and pratice spanking babies seven months old. Do you keep the spanking area in clothing that makes it more available to spanking.
1. did u throw your own wife out back door.
2. does Darwin fish speak for himself or u are it.
3. are there weapons at Darwin fishes and u house?
4. did you call bryants wife a whore?
if so, is she a whore?
5. are you Jean-Paul?
6.How can u slander Mrs.Bryant like that without her son getting angry.Is he on web, can we talk to him or is he prisoner.
7.has your leader had cps cllled on him for child abuse. I have read all
the posts about this and I think you are attacking because you are afraid.
Afraid of the truth, afraid that u
can c people are arriving at truth.You seem to have it in for women, u better be glad u r not around my house, i would pray to God to cast demons from u. You r possessed by hatred, doubt about yourself and fear that u cant b in control. Wheres darwin fish, doesnt he have a mouth.
5.does darvin fish sleep with his nine kids in one room. is that lie?
6.does darvin fish believe in having more wives if legal.
u know, you sling your crap all over the web, misquoting scriptures out of contest, like the ones above.why dont you really study your bible instead of Darvin Fsh. You r putting a man before God and you will Burn. Repent of calling that woman a whore or prove it. wheres her husband, let him type in , my wife is a whore.
u are sick and perverted . answer the questions posts have asked or stay coward, with the hiding fish.
Josh and Anthony and Brittany,
our mom wanted us to read your posts to show how Satan works in peoples lives and we read all above post too. and we believe u are wicked and hate women,we dontknwo about men.

[No Deceit]

I am waiting for Mrs. Bryant's response. Thank you.

al

[Anonymous]

Anonymous: Why would Mrs. Bryant have to respond to a total jerk like you al soto. Your post speaks for itself, you can smell the hate over the website, you are in the wrong. You need to repent of a lot of things. You need to answer questions that are asked, coward? You are a coward, and Darwin Fish. You dont answer questions, just want to call names, like blasphamer? Really, lets hear it for the great al soto Christianity, and where is the almighty Darwin Fish? People, do not be deceived by these devils. If they are as horrid as they sound, I beg God for mercy for their souls.

[Anonymous]

TO THE POST ABOVE I TOTALLY AGREE.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT BUSINESS AL SOTO HAS SENDING PEOPLE TO HELL AND THE NAME CALLING. WHY IS HE SO BENT ON BEING SO MEAN IF THE SON IS GONE TO THE CULT. IS IT A TEST FOR THE SON, DOES HE HAVE TO READ THESE BAD POSTS ABOUT HIS MOTHER AND DO WHAT? SHOULD YOU NOT TELL HIM TO HONOR HIS MOTHER AND FATHER AS THE BIBLE SAYS?
WHAT ABOUT THE SON? IS HE OK, IS HE HEALTHY, IS HE BEING TREATED PROPERLY, HOWEVER CULTS TREAT PEOPLE.
MRS BRYANT, I AM PRAYING FOR YOUR SONS SAFE RETURN, PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY. HANG IN THERE, THERES A LOT OF PEOPLE ON YOUR SIDE, ON GODS SIDE. MY FRIENDS AND CHURCH MEMBERS WILL BE HEARING ABOUT THIS AND I HOPE THEY ALL PASS THE WORD ABOUT DARWIN FISH AND AL SOTO. ALSO, YOU PEOPLE NEED TO SEND MRS BRYANTS SON HOME.
A MOM

[Anonymous]

I agree completely with the previous posts.
Good ol Al, I knew you would be back. It was only a matter of time. You don't seem to have a very high opinion of women do you? How can you say the things you say to the mother of one of your members and still look him in the eye.
And your little interpretation of scripture caught my eye. It always amazes me how you can twist scripture to suit you. You said a woman of faith can win a wicked man even one who beats her, to Christ. If she dies in the process, she gains eternity.
Duh!!! If she is a woman of faith she gains eternity anyway. I wouldn't stick around and allow someone to beat me to death. I don't think the Lord would want that either. Oh and I'll give you a choice, take your pick.
1 I fear for your soul
2 You blaspheme the word of God
3 Repent
4 You evil witch.
There, I think I made it easy for you to answer me.

[Anonymous]

to the above anonymous: Great, wonderful choice of words, i always get so carried away with my vocab.
I love it. Isnt it amazing how Soto is as cunning as a serpent when answering questions about child abuse and other specifics. He really never has made his clear statement on believing that Jesus Christ is the only son of God, I fear for their commune, i am beginning to believe that Fish might be elected as Apostle or Messiah at any time now. Those poor children down there, raised in that atmosphere, and the persons in the cult. How will they ever escape Fishes and Sotos lies. How! Anon

[Anonymous]

SEND CASEY BRYANT HOME, EVERYONE OUT THERE, TYPE IT IN, SEND CASEY BRYANT HOME, SEND CASEY BRYANT HOME, HE BELONGS TO CHRIST, HE HAS BEEN LED ASTRAY. THIS IS SPIRITUAL WARFARE, PRAY FOR CASEY BRYANT, TWENTY YEARS OLD WITH LOVING WIFE AND CHILD. FRIENDS ALL WAITING, CHRISTIAN FREINDS, MOM AND DAD AND FAMILY MEMBERS ALL PRAYING FOR HIS SAFE RELEASE. SEND CASEY HOME, WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP. AT YOUR NEXT MEETING, PROMISE KEEPERS, WE MIGHT SHAKE YOUR HAND, SMILE AT YOU, WE WILL BE PRAYING FOR YOU WITH HANDS LAID ON YOU FOR GODS HOLY SPIRIT TO FREE YOU FROM SATANS HOLD ON YOU. AND YOU CAN CALL ME ANYTHING YOU WANT, JUST SEND THAT YOUNG MAN HOME. FRIEND OF CASEY

[Anonymous]

DARWIN FISH IS A COWARD, A BLASPHAMER OF GODS WORD AND HE WILL BURN IN HELL.REPENT DARWIN FISH, SIDEKICKS ALSOTO. YOU WILL BE BURNING IN THE LAKE OF FIRE FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER, EVERLASTING TORMENT, YOU DEMONS, I CALL UPON THE NAME OF JESUS TO TAKE YOU ALL OUT OF THAT COMPOUND SPIRITUALLY, WE FEAR FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND WOMEN. FRIENDS OF CASEY BRYANTS, SEND CASEY HOME

[Anonymous]

to the above two postings. i have already sent Billy Graham many of the posts and they have replied, also big churches in san jose and sf. they know about fish and have his organ on file.
Lets start a prayer chain for Casey Bryant. Everyone reading this please email 10 churches in the yellow pages or your church or christians to have special prayer for Casey Bryant tomorrow, and then add him to their weekly prayer list and daily prayer lists. Also, if someone wants to fast for him, that would be good. We have to fight spiritually, so get on your computers now. Just simply please put a young man named Casey Bryant on your prayer list tomorrow, try to announce it from pulpits all over Califonia, ask that God return Casey Bryant home. And tell them about the website so that they can warm their loved ones. Please, get on those computers and get those churches and pastors and people notified today. Lets Roll!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Hello, i am not able to contact ten churches but will ask for special prayer for Bryants family.
Mr. Al Soto: Why cant this man Casey live with his wife and come there for church. Does he have to live there to belong to Darwins group. If you are interested in keeping the wife in the picture, are you telling him he could be an example by his love by living with her. Do you think he has done a good thing leaving her and her baby?
Does Darvin Fish endorse this moving away from the wife. A Mom and Dad just watching because we were asked to look at website. Are we getting correct story, that Casey Bryant had to move there?

[Anonymous]

NEW MESSIAH HERE; BAKERSFIELD, DARWN FISH CLAIMS TO BE SAVIOR


IS THIS GOING TO BE A HEADLINE IN TEN YEARS, BEWARE OF SATAN!

[Anonymous]

SALVATION THRU AL SOTO, RESSURECTED JOHN THE BAPTIST HE CLAIMS!

MAYBE THIS WILL ALSO BE A HEADLINE IN TEN YEARS. PEOPLE BEWARE! PRAY THAT YOU DONT FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THESE EVIL CULT PERSONS. THEY HAVE COMPOUND OUTSIDE BAKERSFIELD. SAVE YOUR CHILDREN FROM THE FUTURE. GET ON THIS WEBSITE AND TELL THEM TO CLOSE THEIR DOORS AND REPENT OR BURN.