Getting children out

[sad4them]

Does anyone know of any REAL help in custody issues in Rutherfordton county? I need to get the children away from those crazy people!

[ca_watchin]

R U still trying to help children/people escape?

[sad4them]

I will never give up.

[SkypeGod]

I have a similar situation. Can be discussed.

[sgng123]

I CANNOT believe that this REAL LIVE CULT that has been reported to be ruining lives, controlling people and wreaking havoc... and no one has posted here since 1-20-11.

That's sad, what are the cult expose people doing?

Go to youtube and type in WOFF Inside Edition for a great look at this demented preacher...

[turtle]

Sgng, I went and looked at the woff videos or some of them. Like any org there is going to be abuse. However let me ask you this when the last time you watch rock video, or heavy metal video. Okay maybe I am out of touch with heavy metal. It been years, but my middle school played a heavy metal local group at school year and years ago. The screaming the yelling in that band compared to woff. Eerie. We know abuse of all kinds happen in every group so let say there is extreme, looking at Jane waley video inside edition did. We hearing one person and not the group or seeing even the whole discourse of what is happening. However what I seen in some of those videos I do believe is abuse, however we are only looking at a small glimpse. Is it abuse for people to fall on the floor at the front of a room.

Genesis 15:12 KJV
(12) And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him.

Ezekiel 1:28 KJV
(28) As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.

Ezekiel 1:28-2:2 KJV
(28) As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.
(1) And he said unto me, Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak unto thee.
(2) And the spirit entered into me when he spake unto me, and set me upon my feet, that I heard him that spake unto me.

Daniel 8:17-18 KJV
(17) So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
(18) Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.

2 Chronicles 5:12-14 KJV
(12) Also the Levites which were the singers, all of them of Asaph, of Heman, of Jeduthun, with their sons and their brethren, being arrayed in white linen, having cymbals and psalteries and harps, stood at the east end of the altar, and with them an hundred and twenty priests sounding with trumpets
(13) It came even to pass, as the trumpeters and singers were as one, to make one sound to be heard in praising and thanking the LORD; and when they lifted up their voice with the trumpets and cymbals and instruments of musick, and praised the LORD, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: that then the house was filled with a cloud, even the house of the LORD;
(14) So that the priests could not stand to minister by reason of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of God.

Acts 9:3-4 KJV
(3) And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
(4) And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

Revelation 1:17 KJV
(17) And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

John 18:6 KJV
(6) As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.

Soldiers fell in a group in John. However Jesus did not yell, he state who he was. However look at world wrestling, they yell all the time on stage. No complaint is made, however in a church a complaint is made. However children do not know the difference, adults do or will perhaps leave a situation if they do not like what they see. The question should be who would this group likely appeal too and why? Should children be exposed to it. Some teens that like heavy metal more likely appealed to a yelling group then a soft group. Do I personally have to agree with their methods of course not. But in the church world it about does God approve not man. Government political is about abuse and destruction, but they ask not about secular world. However those things that are not harmful can be imitated by relgious people. However hypnosis without permission is not legal

[sgng123]

Okay there EMP, good post there... get some rest and may I suggest juicing as a method of getting a full robust influx of nutrients into your system... It may help with clarity of thought and of course with immunities and anti-bodies.

How you feeling there lately? Doing okay?

[turtle]

Sgng, just needing a break. Sgng maybe more education on what is normal and what not in a church would be useful for Christian then again with modern movements maybe not. In the Jane whaley video they spoke about someone being held down. That uncalled for. Nothing wrong with hugging someone or praying with someone, but it should never be act of force.

[chad14]

they need to be shut down and put in jail for abusing children